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re: Wiscy tattling on Meyer.
Posted on 2/2/12 at 10:41 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
Posted on 2/2/12 at 10:41 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
He did quit, but I don't think he quit because the going got tough competition wise. It was more about players not panning out and coaches leaving.
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Posted on 2/2/12 at 10:42 pm to taylork37
quote:pretty much all of this....you basically nailed it.
So you are defending him and calling him a quitter at the same time?
I just don't think you want to question him while he was at Florida, but are more than happy to hate on him now that he is gone
Kinda hard to criticize your own HC or hate on them too bad (same with your players). When they do something bad/questionable while on your team it's easy to turn a blind eye or make excuses. Same way it's easy for Florida fans to make fun of Cam.
And did I really hate on him? He's a good coach and a good recruiter. I highly doubt he is ethical when it comes to certain practices, but he's no different than all the other major players (like I said earlier, he's probably just as slimy as the rest). But he did quit on UF....that is clear as day. I'm not mad though, and don't really blame him. He didn't want to tarnish his legacy, so when the going got tough he quit. He probably expected to stay retired for a couple years, but when the OSU job opened after only one year.....it was too good to pass up (that's where he's from and it's easy to win/recruit there).
Posted on 2/2/12 at 10:43 pm to gatordmb89
quote:ok, I see what you mean and can agree with that.
He did quit, but I don't think he quit because the going got tough competition wise. It was more about players not panning out and coaches leaving.
eta:
quote:again, link? or is this just a popular LSU internet rumor that sounds good and people like to believe?
patrick peterson and terrance toliver for damn sure
This post was edited on 2/2/12 at 10:44 pm
Posted on 2/2/12 at 10:49 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
i dont have a link from 4-5 years ago, but theyre scores were both flagged after committing to LSU over florida
Posted on 2/2/12 at 10:52 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
That's nice and all that you are admitting it, but like I said just don't see how you can defend him when he does something questionable for your University but attack him when he does something questionable to your University.
In my mind it is either one or the other.
The same thing goes for some OSU fans. Attack him when he beats you and defend him when he coaches for you.
In my mind it is either one or the other.
The same thing goes for some OSU fans. Attack him when he beats you and defend him when he coaches for you.
Posted on 2/2/12 at 10:55 pm to taylork37
I understand what you're saying and agree, but I don't think I'm really attacking him. I just think all these coaches are two-faced and slimy.....it's part of the game. All types of shading dealings going on behind the scenes.
quote:how exactly does a coach flag a test score? sounds like a popular myth/rumor that lsu fans find convenient.....
i dont have a link from 4-5 years ago, but theyre scores were both flagged after committing to LSU over florida
Posted on 2/2/12 at 10:58 pm to gatordmb89
quote:
I don't think he quit on UF, but he knew he was in trouble. He had too much staff turnover, and put himself in a bind #'s wise.
That's why he quit!
Do you really think, that had he been able to keep Cam Newton eligible, he wouldn't be sporting 3 crystal balls & going for his 4th/5th in Gainsville?
Now he would be losing to Spurrier. USCe is looking for their 3rd straight victory over UF.
He's going to the Big 10, he just left Nick Saban, Les Miles, Steve Spurrier, Mark Richt, & Gene Chizik.
Now he will face Danny Hope, Tim Beckham, Bo Pelini, Bill O'Brien, Kevin Wilson, Brady Hoke & Jerry Kill.
Posted on 2/2/12 at 11:01 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
by going to the ncaa and saying, "hey, there was too much of a jump from the first time he took to the act to the second, look into it" and they usually do and it can cause clearinghouse issues, it happened to keiland williams and he wasnt cleared until like a week before the start of the 2006 season
seriously, youve never heard of act scores being flagged? you think it's a made up thing by lsu fans? stop being dumb
seriously, youve never heard of act scores being flagged? you think it's a made up thing by lsu fans? stop being dumb
Posted on 2/2/12 at 11:08 pm to DBG
I just don't think some football coach has the ability to flag some test score or negatively affect a player's eligibility causing them to miss practice/playing time. Unless there's solid evidence or at least someone reputable reporting it, I'll just chalk it up as sour grapes and a silly LSU rumor. Is it possible that it happened, sure. Is it possible that it's just a bs rumor, sure.
Posted on 2/2/12 at 11:14 pm to DBG
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but theyre scores were both flagged after committing to LSU over florida
A HC cannot flag a test score pal. Do some homework first before making ridiculous accusations. We have been down this road before.
Posted on 2/2/12 at 11:18 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
With Urban, I'm still kind of unsure how to really make out the whole thing. I mean, I still thought he did some amazing things at UF, just a damn shame that 2010 went the way it did. I knew he'd get back into coaching soon. I was thinking another year or 2, but not surprised one bit that he went to tOSU given the history and personally, I thought that was the one job he'd leave UF for. Never thought ND was that much of an option.
I don't think the health issues were fake, never really got why people thought that.
I'm kind of w/UFownstSEC and dmb89 in that the poor '10 season not to mention sooo much change (both players and coaching staff) really affected him.
I don't think the health issues were fake, never really got why people thought that.
I'm kind of w/UFownstSEC and dmb89 in that the poor '10 season not to mention sooo much change (both players and coaching staff) really affected him.
Posted on 2/2/12 at 11:50 pm to SpartyGator
Look, Meyer has always gone "hard" in recruiting. I do think he "quit" on us in UF, but the guy knows how to recruit. Hes never had any major recruiting violations.
To me, this sounds like Wisconsin and Michigan State are scared of what Meyer could turn OSU back into.
To me, this sounds like Wisconsin and Michigan State are scared of what Meyer could turn OSU back into.
Posted on 2/2/12 at 11:55 pm to boXerrumble
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Sounds like Wisconsin is scared of what Meyer could turn OSU back into.
FIFY
I do get what you're saying though
Posted on 2/3/12 at 12:35 am to KingwoodLsuFan
Meyer was hired to win games. To win games you need better players. As long as he didn't pay them or give them free stuff, there's nothing they can do. Cry babies.
Posted on 2/3/12 at 2:37 am to RLDSC FAN
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so you're one of those that thinks Tebow is the reason they won it in 06
ron zooks players
Posted on 2/3/12 at 7:42 am to boXerrumble
For the record, it's more than an internet rumor. It made the mainstream press, and originated from Peterson himself:
LINK
I'm no fan of Meyer or Ohio St, but Bielsma needs to shut up. Oh, no! Big Ten teams might actually have to compete for recruits instead of colluding. The horrors!
Meyer's an aggressive recruiter. A verbal isn't worth the paper it is printed on, and he keeps recruiting until the bell rings. Welcome to the big leagues.
quote:
And five months from LSU, with which he will sign after decommitting from Miami. Johnson graduated early from Ely with the hope of enrolling in college this month and joining the Tigers for spring practice. But those plans were botched when the NCAA Clearinghouse began looking into his most recent ACT score - a considerable leap from his first two tries.
Both Johnson and his father have said they believe Florida brought the discrepancy to light. As a result, Johnson is sitting out again, at least for one spring. Only this time, it's not his character being molded.
It's his detestation of all things Gators.
"I'm not upset," Johnson told the New Orleans Times-Picayune. "Florida made an issue about the ACT score. They're cowards. They had to go behind my back. But that's okay. We play them this year (Oct. 11 at Gainesville)."
LINK
I'm no fan of Meyer or Ohio St, but Bielsma needs to shut up. Oh, no! Big Ten teams might actually have to compete for recruits instead of colluding. The horrors!
Meyer's an aggressive recruiter. A verbal isn't worth the paper it is printed on, and he keeps recruiting until the bell rings. Welcome to the big leagues.
This post was edited on 2/3/12 at 7:43 am
Posted on 2/3/12 at 7:44 am to 3rdandlong83
quote:
Meyer was hired to win games. To win games you need better players. As long as he didn't pay them or give them free stuff, there's nothing they can do. Cry babies.
Exactly. No wonder the Big 10 can't beat the SEC in the big games.
The SEC is the BEST football conference in America because each team takes it more seriously than anyone else: Coaches, players, fanbase, expectations, etc...
Posted on 2/3/12 at 8:06 am to boXerrumble
quote:
The SEC is the BEST football conference in America because each team takes it more seriously than anyone else
Posted on 2/3/12 at 8:13 am to SprintFun
quote:well clearly he's innocent then
Brady Hoke says there is nothing wrong with what Urban did.
Posted on 2/3/12 at 8:21 am to Baloo
Rich Rod got in the same shite for violating the unwritten rule. it really was mainly an issue his first class when he came in late and tried to get guys to switch. meyer is a much better (and negative) recruiter, though, so this probably will keep coming up
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