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re: Williams, Daniels, Maye, JJ (lol), Bo, or Penix Jr.? Who ends up having the best career?

Posted on 12/3/24 at 3:29 pm to
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 12/3/24 at 3:29 pm to
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They will all have a better career than Bryce Young and Mac Jones


This is what you really wanted to say.
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
43174 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 10:51 pm to
I might need to become a NFL GM at this point.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
51958 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 10:56 pm to
I’d take you over Loomis
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
11945 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 11:37 pm to
Best career? The last man standing without using a cane. And who hasn't taken contracts out on his OL.
Posted by bayoujd
Member since Jan 2009
3132 posts
Posted on 12/29/24 at 11:44 pm to
Everyone says Williams has all the talent in the world. No, no he doesn’t.
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
59285 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 6:05 am to
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I might need to become a NFL GM at this point.


Good bump been interesting to watch the regular season unfold and seeing all these guys play except JJ at Minn because of injury.

My top 5 going forward

Daniels
Nix
Penix
Maye
Williams

Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 6:35 am to
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Maye is Trubisky and Howell reincarnate

Oof.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
71102 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 7:03 am to
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Daniels
Nix



LOL


Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61014 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 7:36 am to
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Daniels
Nix

quote:

LOL


I don’t understand this LOL. That’s literally how they will finish in the ROY. Both were better than Williams and the other 3 didn’t play enough
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61014 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 7:41 am to
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I might need to become a NFL GM at this point.


Feel free to give us your breakdown on offensive linemen from non P4 schools and 4th and 5th rounders
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
43174 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 7:46 am to
I can get scouts for that duh. You just earned yourself MAC duty. Have fun attending Bowling Green games in November.
This post was edited on 12/30/24 at 7:48 am
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116181 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 8:07 am to
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Maye is in a shitty situation in NE, hard to really know with him being thrown into that fire.


Ironically this is why people around the league and the pats are so high on him now at the end of the year. He’s already an efficient and explosive playmaker that elevates the guys around him. But something besides practice squad talent around him and it’s going to be insane.


Had he just started week 1 like he probably should have, he might be in that ROTY conversation as well.


Gotta turn down the turnovers a little bit and keep him healthy
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61014 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 8:09 am to
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Everyone says Williams has all the talent in the world. No, no he doesn’t.


Sure he does, he made some unreal throws at times. He can run, not to Daniels level but he definitely can. He has all the physical tools. The biggest questions are his decision making especially holding on to the ball too long and maybe his mental makeup
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
59285 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 8:19 am to
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LOL


Jayden has the IT factor

Bo Nix doesn't but Sean Payton will make him a successful qb under his system.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
32304 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 8:36 am to
Its wild, looking back that half this class are off to a solid start.

Caleb Williams
- People can frown at him, but this OL play has been ATROCIOUS. He's been sacked 67 times yet he's done a fairly remarkable job. He should end the season 4k total yards, 20+ TDs, and less than 10 turnovers.

Jayden Daniels
- Easily ROTY and impressive when you consider where Washington was last year. he's about to hit 4500 total yards, break a rookie completion% record, tally >30 TDs to <10turnovers.

Drake Maye
- NE is void of talent, we all know that. Somehow still completing 67% of his passes, a chance to hit 3k total yards in 13 games, 20 TDs to 12 turnovers is solid work for what he's working with. Daniel Jones comparisons need to STFU, he can actually read an offense and not panic (despite being sacked 33 times through 12 games)

Bo Nix
- Arguably the biggest surprise of this year. If you told me Sean Payton was insane and Bo Nix is a bust based on college play --- I'd have agreed. This is where "when the player matches the coach and organization". If projected, he's about to hit 65% completion, 4k total yards, 30 total TDs, currently at 12 INTs and a chance at the playoffs. Wild.

Not enough to know
JJ and Penix Jr
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
13073 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 8:58 am to
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The biggest questions are his decision making especially holding on to the ball too long and maybe his mental makeup

These things are "talents" as well.
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
43174 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 8:59 am to
LINK

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The Bears’ offensive line was inconsistent in the first three weeks before stabilizing either side of its bye. Several fingers have been pointed at this unit for Caleb Williams’ struggles, but the rookie QB is holding onto the ball the fourth-most (3.09) and has to take the blame for his fair share of this offense’s 10.6% sack rate, which ranks last in the NFL. Most of the metrics suggest that the pass blocking isn’t that bad. Chicago’s 34.1% pressure rate ranks 13th despite Williams holding onto the ball for so long. They also rank 15th in PBWR, which is more than respectable.


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People can frown at him, but this OL play has been ATROCIOUS. He's been sacked 67 times yet he's done a fairly remarkable job. He should end the season 4k total yards, 20+ TDs, and less than 10 turnovers.
he holds onto the ball way too long. Shiiiit that offense doesn’t even trust him to throw more than 5 yards down the field. No wonder he had that non-int streak. He was barely testing defenses.
This post was edited on 12/30/24 at 9:01 am
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61014 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 10:29 am to
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These things are "talents" as well.


Ok Greg Brady, he has all the physical talent, but you know what we meant.

Also decision making/getting rid of the ball is or at least can be teachable, part of development. Same with mental makeup. Arm strength, size are not
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