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Posted on 9/16/19 at 5:56 pm to sms151t
You can still schedule a occ road game without a return date. You just have one less home game or schedule a neutral site game and take a way less gate total than the other team. I'm just telling you that's what they have to do. if they aren't willing to do that maybe the should just shut down the program or just learn to live with the level they are at. The truth of it is that it will take 10 or more years of being in the top 20 before people will respect them maybe even more. It's a long game.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 5:58 pm to crash1211
It's not easy to go oh ohio state please play us. Scheduling is done way in advance
Posted on 9/16/19 at 6:13 pm to crash1211
Getting a decent reputation is far easier as Independent when you can basically dictate your schedule by targeting P5s compared to being in a shitty conference where they have to play in conference for a significant number of games.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 6:38 pm to Kodar
The alternative is for the American to continue to grow.
This year, the conference doesn't have a loss to any of the other G5 teams. They also have an overall win pct. similar to the ACC/PAC12/MWC. Having no bad losses after 3 weeks is HUGE for a G5 league.
The REAL problem is perception. It takes a decade or so for that to change.
Tulane, SMU, and Memphis need to continue to make strides. The AAC as a league needs to deliver (so that means about 7-9 teams since someone has to lose conference games).
This year, the conference doesn't have a loss to any of the other G5 teams. They also have an overall win pct. similar to the ACC/PAC12/MWC. Having no bad losses after 3 weeks is HUGE for a G5 league.
The REAL problem is perception. It takes a decade or so for that to change.
Tulane, SMU, and Memphis need to continue to make strides. The AAC as a league needs to deliver (so that means about 7-9 teams since someone has to lose conference games).
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 9/16/19 at 7:03 pm to VermilionTiger
quote:
But CFB and the playoff format is broken. When 75% of the 130 teams in CFB have zero chance of making the playoffs going INTO the season, it’s broken.
The 130 teams part is the problem. There's no way in hell FBS should have that many teams on the "highest level"
Get it down to half that and now you're talking.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 7:08 pm to PEPE
quote:
The 130 teams part is the problem. There's no way in hell FBS should have that many teams on the "highest level"
Get it down to half that and now you're talking.
Two points:
1. How are schools going to get the 7 home games needed to work budgets?
2. Why should the bottom 2/3rd of the P5 sign up? Boston College would go 2-10 every year.
Just fix the CFP selection system and run an 8 team playoff. Use a formula to do it - and if we get 4 SEC teams and/or an AAC/MWC team, then so be it.
The transparency issue has killed the spirit of 70% of FBS.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 7:39 pm to oliveandblue
quote:
8 team playoff.
Make it 24 like NCAA Bylaws dictate for every sport
You can still use bowls and conferences can determine their entry into it.
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 7:40 pm
Posted on 9/16/19 at 7:59 pm to sms151t
24 is too damn many.
If I were being a selfish prick...
SEC
B1G
ACC
P12
XII
P5 WC
P5 WC/ND
AAC/MWC (champions play-in game determines the final spot)
If I were being a selfish prick...
SEC
B1G
ACC
P12
XII
P5 WC
P5 WC/ND
AAC/MWC (champions play-in game determines the final spot)
Posted on 9/16/19 at 8:08 pm to oliveandblue
24 is the number by the rules
It’s number FCS and 3 use. 2 has 28
It gives everyone a legit shot and all champions get in
This would have been the bracket last year
Auto Qualifiers
AAC UCF
ACC Clemson
Big Ten Ohio State
Big 12 Oklahoma
CUSA UAB
MAC NIU
MWC Fresno
PAC Washington
SEC Alabama
SBC Appalachian St
The bracket using Auto bids and At larges
Utah vs West Virginia, winner plays Alabama
Appalachian St vs Washington, winner plays UCF
Washington St vs Texas A&M, winner plays Oklahoma
Penn St vs Fresno, winner plays Georgia
Texas vs Mississippi St, winner plays Clemson
Florida vs NIU, winner plays Michigan
Kentucky vs Syracuse, winner plays Notre Dame
LSU vs UAB, winner plays Ohio State
It’s number FCS and 3 use. 2 has 28
It gives everyone a legit shot and all champions get in
This would have been the bracket last year
Auto Qualifiers
AAC UCF
ACC Clemson
Big Ten Ohio State
Big 12 Oklahoma
CUSA UAB
MAC NIU
MWC Fresno
PAC Washington
SEC Alabama
SBC Appalachian St
The bracket using Auto bids and At larges
Utah vs West Virginia, winner plays Alabama
Appalachian St vs Washington, winner plays UCF
Washington St vs Texas A&M, winner plays Oklahoma
Penn St vs Fresno, winner plays Georgia
Texas vs Mississippi St, winner plays Clemson
Florida vs NIU, winner plays Michigan
Kentucky vs Syracuse, winner plays Notre Dame
LSU vs UAB, winner plays Ohio State
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 9/16/19 at 8:29 pm to sms151t
Back when the game with Stanford was originally scheduled, the Cardinal were coming off a 11-3 season and had a 12-2 season before that.
Stanford, UCF Schedule 2015 & 2019 games
Stanford, UCF Schedule 2015 & 2019 games
Posted on 9/16/19 at 8:51 pm to sms151t
quote:
Utah vs West Virginia, winner plays Alabama
Appalachian St vs Washington, winner plays UCF
Washington St vs Texas A&M, winner plays Oklahoma
Penn St vs Fresno, winner plays Georgia
Texas vs Mississippi St, winner plays Clemson
Florida vs NIU, winner plays Michigan
Kentucky vs Syracuse, winner plays Notre Dame
LSU vs UAB, winner plays Ohio State
whole lot more chances of significant injury playing shitty teams before getting to a championship game... and ad revenue for some of these games would be atrocious, something the NCAA ain't looking for.... would water down what they have now....
24, in the FBS, is just too many... 8 would be perfect... only one more weekend, covers the power 5 champs, and 3 at large bids, for teams like UCF, TCU, Boise, etc...
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:35 pm to chRxis
quote:ummm, TCU?
8 would be perfect... only one more weekend, covers the power 5 champs, and 3 at large bids, for teams like UCF, TCU, Boise, etc.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:55 pm to forever lsu30
quote:
What say you?
Nope, and it doesn't much matter. We will continue to do what is best for growing our program. It's already unrecognizable from when I went there.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 12:26 am to Jack Daniel
quote:
Need to join the ACC
Nah let them replace Tennessee for a season or two. Let Tennessee rebuild and be SEC worthy again. And by the time UCF taps out and stops with the “We belong in the CFP conversation” shenanigans we can send them back to the American conference.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 7:00 am to tk for tu juan
quote:
Back when the game with Stanford was originally scheduled, the Cardinal were coming off a 11-3 season and had a 12-2 season before that. Stanford, UCF Schedule 2015 & 2019 games
Good for them but that’s not how this works. It’s not “did you schedule good teams” it’s “did you play and beat good teams”. They don’t get rewarded for playing someone because they were good 6 years ago
Posted on 9/17/19 at 7:51 am to sms151t
quote:
So if UCF tries to schedule these teams and they don’t want to play them, what is their options?
You saw the list of teams i showed Boise beat? Only one of them was in a bowl game, Oklahoma. The rest of them, Boise went to their place. Face the facts, if you want to be considered for the playoffs, then you're going to have to suck it up and go play at UGA, or go to Penn St, and not expect a return trip.
Boise and Fresno did it for years. Don't tell me it can't be done.
UCF has this entitled attitude that they think they are good enough to say we want a home and home and won't compromise on it. Florida offered them a 2 for 1 and they said no. You want to make money, then fine, stand pat and keep trying to get home and homes. You want to try to win a championship, suck it up and go play at Oklahoma without a return trip. You can't have both.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 8:02 am to TeddyPadillac
So if UCF were in the SEC they would be battling Florida and Texas A&M for the 4 the best team in the league. UCF would curb stomp Mizzou, Arkansas, South Carolina, Vandy, Kentucky, Tenn, Ole Miss and Miss St.
The big three in the SEC, UGA, Bama and LSU are all better than UCF. That doesn’t mean they couldn’t upset them. But they would likely lose 9/10 times. The rest of the SEC would lose to UCF 70% of the time. If not more.
The big three in the SEC, UGA, Bama and LSU are all better than UCF. That doesn’t mean they couldn’t upset them. But they would likely lose 9/10 times. The rest of the SEC would lose to UCF 70% of the time. If not more.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 8:19 am to chew4219
What does that have to do with anything that's been talked about? You are making a complete hypothetical scenario that no one knows the answer to.
One thing UCF knows nothing about is the grind of playing a SEC schedule. Pay attention to how often teams like A&M or a decent Ole Miss or Miss St team goes play LSU or UF or Alabama and loses but puts up a good fight, then goes get their arse beat the next week by Kentucky b/c they are physically worn out from the previous week.
Every year you see some SEC school starts off hot, only to finish with 3 or more losses, hell LSU has done it many times recently.
Crappy Tennessee plays @UF, UGA, MSU, @Bama, SC for one stretch of the season. You think UCF could win more than 2 of those, b/c i'd bet they can't, and even if they somehow pull off an upset and beat say UF, they could end up losing to SC after that tough stretch.
One thing UCF knows nothing about is the grind of playing a SEC schedule. Pay attention to how often teams like A&M or a decent Ole Miss or Miss St team goes play LSU or UF or Alabama and loses but puts up a good fight, then goes get their arse beat the next week by Kentucky b/c they are physically worn out from the previous week.
Every year you see some SEC school starts off hot, only to finish with 3 or more losses, hell LSU has done it many times recently.
Crappy Tennessee plays @UF, UGA, MSU, @Bama, SC for one stretch of the season. You think UCF could win more than 2 of those, b/c i'd bet they can't, and even if they somehow pull off an upset and beat say UF, they could end up losing to SC after that tough stretch.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 11:24 am to TeddyPadillac
The only teams UCF should consider a one off or 2 for 1 with is Bama, Clemson, Ohio State, and Oklahoma. Turning down Florida for a 2 for 1 is a no brainer. None of their teams since Tebow would do anything for UCF’s playoff hopes.
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