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re: Will national sports pollsters respect UCF now or has nothing changed?

Posted on 9/16/19 at 4:07 pm to
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 4:07 pm to
That’s a game that probably shouldn’t be played even if you’re Arkansas. And Arkansas made a bad deal. It should’ve been 6 for 3

2 home basketball
2 in Fayetteville
2 in Little Rock
1 Home FB game Memphis
2 home basketball for Memphis



Posted by crash1211
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 4:08 pm to
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Have you noticed the majority of top teams stay way way far away from the UCF types? Unless it’s a neutral or no return game?

Why should they return. Until you are considered in the upper echelon. You need to do 2 for one or no return. Sorry that's the way most people see it.
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 4:09 pm to
Mizzou won like 3 straight SEC east division titles, and we still don’t respect them at all. UCF will never earn respect in the AAC or in any other conference for that matter, and their fans are too big of a-holes to be worth rooting for like Boise St.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 4:09 pm to
I get that but I’m going from UCF angle. They shouldn’t play 2 or 3 for 1.

It’s too big of business to give UCF a return game with chance to lose at home

Point is UCF (and others) is playing against a stacked deck. We really do not know how good they really are because they’re not playing on a level field.

Boise tried to level it and their conference disbanded.

This whole conversation is why I wished they’d go to 24 just like NCAA bylaws mandated. But that’s another discussion
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 4:16 pm
Posted by airlinehwypanhandler
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 4:25 pm to
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I get that but I’m going from UCF angle. They shouldn’t play 2 or 3 for 1.

It’s too big of business to give UCF a return game with chance to lose at home

Point is UCF (and others) is playing against a stacked deck. We really do not know how good they really are because they’re not playing on a level field.


Then UCF will have to accept that they will never get better OOC opponents then what they are getting now. Mid Level P5 teams like Pitt aren't going to move enough eyeballs on them.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 4:28 pm to
They have accepted it. It’s the media and people who think they’re trash because of it that haven’t accepted it.

I mean they just played Stanford and yet people in the thread are criticizing them for it and not scheduling someone else.

Like I said it’s not a level field for them.
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 4:30 pm
Posted by crash1211
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 4:35 pm to
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Point is UCF (and others) is playing against a stacked deck. We really do not know how good they really are because they’re not playing on a level fiel

That's the way of the world. You have to as Jim Finks once said put skins on the wall before you are taken seriously and for UCF means only playing on the road against upper level power 5 schools (ranked) Get multiple wins then people will see the school in a different light.
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 4:36 pm
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 4:36 pm to
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multiple wins then people will see the school in a different light.



Won’t happen. One they don’t want to lose revenue they’re tied into a conference and teams won’t play them. They got skins on the wall. They got one this weekend got one in a bowl game.

If they were independent it would be easier for them to do like Miami and FSU did.
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 4:38 pm
Posted by BoardReader
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 4:38 pm to
Nothing changed.

Beat a bad Stanford? Hell, the good teams have to do that 6 times a year.
Posted by airlinehwypanhandler
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 4:39 pm to
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I mean they just played Stanford and yet people in the thread are criticizing them for it and not scheduling someone else.



I am not knocking them playing Stanford, as that is, sadly, the best non conference opponent they have played in their run since 2017.
Posted by crash1211
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 4:42 pm to
A down Stanford is not a skin on the wall. Make a deal to play against teams like UGA, LSU,Texas, OKC, ALA. someone in the top 20. Don't request a return date. Get a couple of wins then you will see. Don't give me BS that any of those schools wouldn't play because they are scared to lose. They each play big time OCC teams every year.
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 4:43 pm
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 4:44 pm to
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They got their arse whipped against an LSU team that was barely able to field a defense.

No they don’t deserve the respect.



You think that beating a team by 8 that’s missing it’s starting QB is an arse whipping? What are they teaching y’all in Baton Rouge?
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 4:47 pm to
A garbage time score made it look much closer than it was. LSU dominated that game from the second quarter on.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 4:49 pm to
LSU does sometimes but Bama rarely does I mean they play names but not good teams

They’ve played
Louisville
Duke
Michigan
Penn St (H/H)

Georgia has played Notre Dame home and home and that’s basically it and this board hates ND

OU will play teams
Texas will play teams

Why should UCF not want a home game out of the deal?


The SEC top teams rarely play anyone. aTm played Clemson home and Home

As I said earlier people move their expectations on UCF Boise weekly

People are just upset a program less than 30 years old that was winless a few years ago has ego and wants what they think they earned.
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 4:58 pm
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 4:57 pm to
If your schedule doesn’t have at least 6 P5 teams on it then you don’t deserve playoff consideration.
Posted by airlinehwypanhandler
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 4:59 pm to
Utah and TCU played one way games all the way up until their move to a P5 league and Boise State still plays one way games.

At the very least get a 2 for 1. Utah did 2 for 1s with Michigan, Texas A&M and UCLA, TCU did one with Oklahoma.
Posted by crash1211
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 5:06 pm to
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Why should UCF not want a home game out of the deal

Because UCF doesn't deserve one against those schools yet.. This is the whole problem. I'm sorry UCF isn't on their level yet. I've said this before UCF has to go the Florida State route to get respect. Why should a established upper rated team as above give up a home game to play UCF on the road. They will lose money by not being able to schedule another home game.
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 5:11 pm
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 5:09 pm to
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TCU and Utah



Nothing like Boise or UCF

They both are programs with history. TCU was a SWC team. Utah was a WAC team so they had built in advantages. You’re comparing apples to oranges. Boise and UCF have basically been programs since 1980’s

Utah began football in the 1920’s
TCU began football in 1890’s
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 5:10 pm
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 5:19 pm to
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UCF has to go the Florida State route to get respect.


But they can not they’re not independent people are acting like FSU did this while in the ACC
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 5:20 pm
Posted by crash1211
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 5:42 pm to
Who cares they can still say they will play on the road without a return date. Independent or not.
How do you think they got in the ACC. They became independent juggernaut and they were invited to be in a big boy conference. Once they were in one there was no need for them do to that. They were established. In reality they were established before they went to a conference.
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 5:46 pm
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