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re: Will Clark makes quite the case for why Pete Rose should be in the Hall of Fame
Posted on 10/14/26 at 9:50 am to Houston problem
Posted on 10/14/26 at 9:50 am to Houston problem
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Nowhere did I say the pre-roids Bonds wasn't a good player.
You said he was a weak defender with a rag arm
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I said that it was a reach to say he would have been a first ballot HOF lock without the roids.
Which is why you're retarded.
Posted on 10/14/26 at 9:52 am to InkStainedWretch
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Speaking as someone who has actually cast HoF votes, there was a bunch of constipated old troglodyte voters who thought that since no one in the original group of members was unanimous, no one ever should be. They eventually died out.
If Babe Ruth wasn't a unanimous choice then there should never be a unanimous choice.
Anyone that thinks otherwise is a retard.
Posted on 10/14/26 at 9:54 am to Indefatigable
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dumbest designation in sports. The baseball writers are awful. Someone either is a HOFer or they aren’t. Time shouldn’t change that.
The best of the best go in first ballot. But you can't put in 20 people at one time.
Fans need to understand ... again, I have cast votes on this thing ... that the Hall of Fame is all about the induction ceremony. That weekend is as important to the economy of Cooperstown as Black Friday is to retail businesses. It basically makes or breaks the entire year for that city, and if they don't have one because nobody gets inducted, it has the same impact on the economy as, say, a hurricane hitting Panama City.
That's why it's all designed to keep induction classes to 5 or less, to space it out to ensure that there's always an induction ceremony.
Fans think the HoF is some shrine to the baseball gods. It's a tourist attraction owned and controlled by a family in Cooperstown and its run for their benefit and the town's benefit, not for the fans' benefit.
Posted on 10/14/26 at 9:54 am to Houston problem
Unfortunately we can't go back to 1938 and fix that.
Posted on 10/14/26 at 9:56 am to Broski
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Nowhere did I say the pre-roids Bonds wasn't a good player.
You said he was a weak defender with a rag arm
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I said that it was a reach to say he would have been a first ballot HOF lock without the roids.
Which is why you're retarded.
I don't know which is weirder, your obsession with Barry Bonds or your obsession with me
Posted on 10/14/26 at 9:59 am to Houston problem
Awww you're lashing out again
Posted on 10/14/26 at 10:05 am to Houston problem
Re>Ruth not being unanimous, that was a different group of troglodytes stuck in the dead ball era who hated the changes he wrought on the sport (that only saved the thing LOL).
Posted on 10/14/26 at 10:10 am to InkStainedWretch
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Re>Ruth not being unanimous, that was a different group of troglodytes stuck in the dead ball era who hated the changes he wrought on the sport (that only saved the thing LOL).
Doesn't change that fact that it's beyond retarded that a F'ing relief pitcher is the only unanimous inductee in history.
Posted on 10/14/26 at 10:12 am to Houston problem
True. I would have voted for Rivera. I’m not happy he was the first unanimous pick. There were multiple more deserving people for that distinction. The people who didn’t have Willie Mays on their ballots should have been stripped of their voting privileges.
This post was edited on 10/14/26 at 10:14 am
Posted on 10/15/26 at 5:49 am to KiwiHead
Where did Will grow up?
Posted on 10/15/26 at 7:40 am to Houston problem
There was one immutable rule in the majors that every player knew about from the first day he reported to the big club. No gambling. And every one of those players knew what the consequences would be should they violate that rule. Pete, in his arrogance, thought he was above the law. frick Charlie Hustle.
Posted on 10/15/26 at 7:46 am to Broski
Bobby Bonds does not deserve entry to HOF because he could not throw out Sid Bream from second base on a ball hit right to him.
Posted on 10/15/26 at 10:03 am to Houston problem
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Pre Roided Out Barry d
Still makes the HOF.
Barry should be in.
Posted on 10/16/26 at 1:21 pm to CHEDBALLZ
Grew up in the East and if memory serves he did his playground ball at Digby around Pines Village
Posted on 10/16/26 at 3:13 pm to H-Town Tiger
Who gives a shite if he gambled on baseball, that didn’t affect anything.
Posted on 10/26/26 at 4:17 pm to backbone
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Who gives a shite if he gambled on baseball, that didn’t affect anything.
It most certainly does especially when it the manager. It could affect his in game decisions, when to change pitchers or pinch hit etc, chasing the win today by bring in the closer when maybe it’s better for the season long benefit of the team for him to rest that days since he pitched the 2 games before for example. It also sends a message to the bookie if he doesn’t bet one day (see the 2023 Bama coach).
But that doesn’t really matter, it’s explicitly banned and has been since 1920 or so, EVERYONE involved in baseball including Pete Rose knew this, break the rules there are consequences.
On the basis of his play he obviously is a Hall of Famer, no one ever argued otherwise but he broke a sacred rule and lied about for 15 years .
Posted on 10/26/26 at 4:49 pm to H-Town Tiger
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But that doesn’t really matter, it’s explicitly banned and has been since 1920 or so, EVERYONE involved in baseball including Pete Rose knew this, break the rules there are consequences.
100% agree and because of that I have no issue with him not getting in.
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