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Posted on 3/19/13 at 8:42 pm to Kafka
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2. Many if not most of the best black athletes want to leave the state
Not true. Take a look at the recruiting classes of the past 4-6 years, outside of a handful of guys all the top tier talent has stayed at either Ole Miss or State. The problem is even in a good year you only have six or seven elite recruits and out of those they are split between the schools or one or two leaves or heads to JUCO.
Posted on 3/19/13 at 8:44 pm to NIH
1 SEC school in the equivalent of Monroe
1 SEC school in the equivalent of abbeville
LSU and Auburn feast on the south Miss kids
BAMA swipes north miss kids
Makes it tough on moo state and ole piss
1 SEC school in the equivalent of abbeville
LSU and Auburn feast on the south Miss kids
BAMA swipes north miss kids
Makes it tough on moo state and ole piss
Posted on 3/19/13 at 8:45 pm to NIH
It's a myth that's being slowly dispelled. As long as Freeze and someone competent is at State the elite instate talent will stay instate.
Now the development of that talent is another discussion entirely.
Now the development of that talent is another discussion entirely.
Posted on 3/19/13 at 8:47 pm to DMagic
That is a great point
Good coaches can make it cool to stay instate
Good coaches can make it cool to stay instate
Posted on 3/19/13 at 8:49 pm to DMagic
Hell, even Nutt did a good job of getting top tier MS guys. Mullen does a decent enough job as well to where there are only 1-2 elite players who leave the state now.
Posted on 3/19/13 at 8:49 pm to The Boat
State is too poor to support two major Division 1-A athletic programs. Imagine if LSU had to share the state with another major university in the SEC. They wouldn't be nearly as good in football as they are now.
Posted on 3/19/13 at 8:49 pm to supatigah
The last Number 1 player in MS to leave was Shon Coleman. That one is all Nutt's fault as is destroying all of our morale.
Posted on 3/19/13 at 8:50 pm to SDVTiger
nicki manaj???
Posted on 3/19/13 at 8:52 pm to NIH
I would've drafted you but your absence from the rant dropped your stock.
Posted on 3/19/13 at 9:04 pm to The Boat
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I didn't put this on the SEC rant because it would be a flame fest.
They have everything the rest of the South has with a large black population and a huge sports culture.. but they never win anything. Ole Miss and Mississippi State have 0 national championships, although Ole Miss football will disagree.. but they have 0 legit ones.
You think they'd at least be able to be good at track and field.
3 major schools(yes I'm counting Southern Miss), pop around 2.9mil. Plus athletes going to schools like LSU, Bama, Auburn, etc.
This post was edited on 3/19/13 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 3/19/13 at 9:33 pm to The Boat
Better look at the LSU and alabama rosters....ms has and always represented
Posted on 3/19/13 at 9:41 pm to The Boat
its the most obese state in the nation
Posted on 3/19/13 at 9:48 pm to rpg37
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Mississippi - 1
Miss. State - 0
HBCs - 4
Deuce went to Ole Miss, too. I'm assuming you put him and not Archie into the HBC pile.
Your point still stands.
Posted on 3/19/13 at 10:18 pm to Walking the Earth
Dang, sorry, I skimmed through it and missed. Anyway, I'll add Brett Favre into the equation. Mississippi and Miss. State have both missed out on some incredible talent in the state. Per capita, MS has more NFL players than any state in the country (this fact was once true, may have dropped over the years). This shows a combination of things have happened. I don't know what the answer is outside of what I posted on page one on this thread, which all have been repeated ad nauseum.
Posted on 3/19/13 at 10:45 pm to rpg37
Fair or unfair, Ole Miss was the symbol of segregation (and I really don't want to argue whether it is fair or not). They just couldn't attract black athletes for a very long time. I think that is finally changing, but it takes a generation for it to have the full effect. It's the lingering effect of integration. No school has been more punished for segregation than Ole Miss.
Posted on 3/19/13 at 10:47 pm to The Boat
Who's a bigger state hero -- Archie or Byron De La Beckwith?
Posted on 3/19/13 at 10:52 pm to The Boat
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Ole Miss and Mississippi State have 0 national championships, although Ole Miss football will disagree.. but they have 0 legit ones.
Don't get too cocky. I dare say that when you were born LSU had only one.
Ole Miss claims national championships that are bogus, but so does Alabama. On the other hand Ole Miss, unlike Alabama, was cheated out of a "legitimate" national championship due to the state's racial attitude half a century ago.
Posted on 3/19/13 at 11:10 pm to mattz1122
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Who's a bigger state hero -- Archie or Byron De La Beckwith?
Please hammer dont hurt 'em!!
Posted on 3/19/13 at 11:19 pm to Baloo
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Fair or unfair, Ole Miss was the symbol of segregation (and I really don't want to argue whether it is fair or not). They just couldn't attract black athletes for a very long time. I think that is finally changing, but it takes a generation for it to have the full effect. It's the lingering effect of integration. No school has been more punished for segregation than Ole Miss.
There's that plus sharing the talent of 2.9 million at least two and probably three ways (there's not much to separate Ole Miss, MSU, and Southern Miss IMO).
Louisiana has around 4.6 million people and one major program
Alabama has around 4.8 million people and two major programs
South Carolina has a population of 4.7 million and two major programs
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