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re: why do so many people hate duke but not unc?

Posted on 3/27/09 at 12:34 am to
Posted by JJ27
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Posted on 3/27/09 at 12:34 am to
They were pretty good when Iverson was there.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 3/27/09 at 12:37 am to
that's true for a year or 2, but by then JT's was not as militant or at least he wasn't getting as much press as during the glory, days in the early to mid 80's with Ewing et al.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 3/27/09 at 12:38 am to
They've been down since 2006. Shaun Livingston and Kris Humphries really screwed the program over, and it took K a while to get over it. Next year could be another mediocre season, depending on what Henderson decides to do, but his 2010 class is starting to resemble some of his better recruiting efforts.

From 1980 until the 1996 draft, GTown was a top program.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 3/27/09 at 1:00 am to
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From 1980 until the 1996 draft, GTown was a top program.


by the late 80's UConn had become the top program in the Big East. GT may have had players drafted, but they did not get the publicity and press of the Ewing era when they went to the CG 3 times in 4 years.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 3/27/09 at 1:23 am to
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Next year could be another mediocre season, depending on what Henderson decides to do


I would assume that Henderson is as good as gone.

Assuming he does leave, I dont know if it'll be a mediocre season, as they will bring back every other major contributor. If they get any freshman help, they'll probably be about as good as they've been the last few years. Good regular season, possibly top 10, probably in the top 20 range, but no real threat come tourney time.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 3/27/09 at 1:32 am to
Right, and that is certainly mediocre by Duke's standards. However, without Henderson, I think this team could be as bad as the 2006-07 team.

If Henderson goes pro, they will have literally three guards on the team: Scheyer, Smith, and Elliot Williams. It looks like they may sign a guy like Eric Bledsoe or Darius Smith, but those guys are big-time projects.

However, I don't think that Henderson is a lock to go pro. He still has a lot of room for improvement, and unlike the vast majority of NBA prospects, he is in a very comfortable financial situation. I would guess that it's 50-50 right now.
Posted by TigerPhan27
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Posted on 3/27/09 at 7:59 am to
"It's because they are rich white kids."

so people hate Duke b/c of jealousy?

which leads to the next question, why do people hate kids whose parents have money? I never got that
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/27/09 at 8:02 am to
well duke likes to live up to the "snobby rich white kid" mystique. they've kind of assumed this for themselves in major sports, as most snooty rich kid schools generally have shite for athletics. they do work playing into that stereotype
Posted by I-59 Tiger
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Posted on 3/27/09 at 8:11 am to
They are equally as bad,IMO since Roy Williams showed up in Chapel Hill.
Posted by ATLTiger
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Posted on 3/27/09 at 8:43 am to
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but his 2010 class is starting to resemble some of his better recruiting efforts.


is Nate James pulling these kids?
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 3/27/09 at 9:01 am to
I not a huge fan of ether but i always go for UNC over Duke. I can not tell a real reason why. I just never liked duke basketball
Posted by Them
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Posted on 3/27/09 at 9:10 am to
Are you seriously trying to tell me that more people hare Duck? I only hate 3 schools more than UNC: USC, Ole Miss, and Notre Dame
Posted by treyk89
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Posted on 3/27/09 at 10:25 am to
Honestly, there's no real reason to hate either of them. It boils down to people being jealous of their success. they wish their program could be that great.

just a bunch of haters.
Posted by bbap
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Posted on 3/27/09 at 10:36 am to
i hate duke's fans because they're all a bunch of egg's.
Posted by CadesCove
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Posted on 3/27/09 at 10:38 am to
quote:

i hate duke's fans because they're all a bunch of egg's.


The stands at Cameron do look like Owlie's old "We are Rice" sig pic.
Posted by Ron Mexico
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Posted on 3/27/09 at 10:38 am to
hijack

brat, good discussion on the rant about auburn 06 and how people think miles didnt call the plays.
Posted by LurkerIndeed
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Posted on 3/27/09 at 10:40 am to
quote:

well duke likes to live up to the "snobby rich white kid" mystique. they've kind of assumed this for themselves in major sports, as most snooty rich kid schools generally have shite for athletics. they do work playing into that stereotype


and that's what led into the lacrosse scandal - it fit every stereotype perfectly about duke, even though it turned out to be garbage.
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 3/27/09 at 10:41 am to
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John Thompson just didn't give scholarships to white players after the 1970s, even if they were good enough to be Hoyas.

I'm surprised how many people just gloss over that.
Not surprised at all.

- "Thompson the N***** flop must go!" A sign saying this hung from the rafters at GU's gym one day in the 1970's when JT was on the hot seat.
- JT's favorite musician is George Strait.
- JT threatened to kill DC's biggest drug dealer if he talked to any of his players.

John Thompson isn't the only basketball coach who did and said racist things that we seem to ignore. Ever heard of a place called Kentucky?
Posted by rocket31
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Posted on 3/27/09 at 10:43 am to
most queers i know just like unc for the carolina blue school colors.
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 3/27/09 at 10:45 am to
I kige this:

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I hate Duke because the media blows up Coach K to be some kind of demigod, when really he is just a whiny little bitch who dirty recruits like the rest of the college basketball coaches.


It's not that Coach K is dirtier than anyone else, he's not. It's that he's held up as some sort of exemplar, when he's just as dirty as everyone else. I hate the hypocrisy of Duke.

I also really hate their style of play. I think Coach K hinders his players development by their absurd flopping on every drive to the lane. It's not good defense and even worse basketball. It's criminal they get so many calls. Even last night, they were getting charges when they weren't even close to set or even enough contact to justify the call, but the guy falls down like he got shot.

Also, let's be honest, people hate Duke because they are good. No one hates Clemson. Duke being good focuses hatred on them. I also love how Duke insists there is no rivlary with Maryland because we're just some dirty public school beneath them, despite having the second best record against Duke of any team in the past 10 years next to UNC. The Terps have sucked the last three seasons, yet Maryland still plays Duke about .500 (except this year, when we got punked).

I hate their pompous arrogant flopping cheating hypocritical bastards. I also especially hate how they are always whining to the ACC because the Terps were too mean to Duke. The band's not even allowed to play "Rock n Roll" anymore because the Terps hurt Duke's feelings. Grow a pair, you sissies. you can't brag about your great student section and then whine whenever anyone heckles you. Classic dish and can't take it.
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