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re: Who is the greatest fighter of all-time? (Anderson Silva or Fedor Emelianenko)
Posted on 6/23/13 at 9:31 pm to Shoulderchoke
Posted on 6/23/13 at 9:31 pm to Shoulderchoke
Too much to read and too much effort to figure out who's trolling.
Quick answer:
Silva > Fedor
Quick answer:
Silva > Fedor
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Posted on 6/23/13 at 9:35 pm to SSHellfighter
quote:
Quick answer:
Fedor > Silva
Posted on 6/23/13 at 10:39 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
I think there is less compitition in HW and MW. Even less so when Pride and UFC were split.
I woudl go with Henderson, but it think there are stronger divisions with great champions. IDK
I woudl go with Henderson, but it think there are stronger divisions with great champions. IDK
Posted on 6/24/13 at 7:49 am to SammyTiger
Posted on 6/24/13 at 8:04 am to Shoulderchoke
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CroCop at 235 vs Nelson
I know Cro Cop has beefed up for some bigger fighters. But if you do some research on the guy he walks around at around 220 to 225 usually. When he fought Wandy for instance he weighed in at 221 I believe.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 8:11 am to Shoulderchoke
my heart says fedor
my head says silva
i do think fedor will continue to get an unfair analysis as time goes forward b/c of the pro-UFC fanbase here
my head says silva
i do think fedor will continue to get an unfair analysis as time goes forward b/c of the pro-UFC fanbase here
Posted on 6/24/13 at 8:27 am to SlowFlowPro
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I know Cro Cop has beefed up for some bigger fighters. But if you do some research on the guy he walks around at around 220 to 225 usually. When he fought Wandy for instance he weighed in at 221 I believe.
Yea, I know he usually weighs in 225-235, but that doesn't change the fact that I don't think he could safely make 205.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 8:30 am to UFownstSECsince1950
Not trolling but how good were Rampage and Lidell in Pride and other federations besides UFC?
Posted on 6/24/13 at 8:30 am to SlowFlowPro
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i do think fedor will continue to get an unfair analysis as time goes forward b/c of the pro-UFC fanbase here
Fedor's resume is impressive, but anyone saying his resume is more impressive than Silva is just wrong. If Adrian Peterson played in the CFL instead of the NFL, would you consider him the GOAT?
Posted on 6/24/13 at 8:43 am to lance814
if you're calling pride of the mid-00s, especially the HW division, the CFL then that's just wrong
Posted on 6/24/13 at 8:53 am to lance814
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Fedor's resume is impressive, but anyone saying his resume is more impressive than Silva is just wrong. If Adrian Peterson played in the CFL instead of the NFL, would you consider him the GOAT?
Fedor's resume is much better. Nogueira was considered the 2nd best fighter in the world when Fedor beat him. Anderson's best win was against Hendo who was coming off a loss to Rampage. It is really no contest.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 9:00 am to VerlanderBEAST
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Fedor's resume is much better. Nogueira was considered the 2nd best fighter in the world when Fedor beat him. Anderson's best win was against Hendo who was coming off a loss to Rampage. It is really no contest.
The rampage fight was at 205 not 185. Fedor also fought Hendo, how did that turn out? "Fedor was at the end of his career or it was a lucky punch......"
Just to add to my post, a big determining factor in measuring GOAT status is longevity of domination against top level competition. Would you consider anyone fedor fought after 2005 top level competition?
This post was edited on 6/24/13 at 9:39 am
Posted on 6/24/13 at 9:33 am to Shoulderchoke
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Pretty cool thread someone did breaking down the best fighters of all-time on Sherdog
Yep. Good breakdown and analysis.
Fedor = GOAT
Posted on 6/24/13 at 9:56 am to lance814
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The rampage fight was at 205 not 185. Fedor also fought Hendo, how did that turn out? "Fedor was at the end of his career or it was a lucky punch......"
Doesn't matter what weight no one considered Hendo to be a top 5 fighter when Anderson beat him, much less the 2nd best fighter in the world.
Also Fedor was years past his prime when he fought Hendo
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Just to add to my post, a big determining factor in measuring GOAT status is longevity of domination against top level competition. Would you consider anyone fedor fought after 2005 top level competition?
Yes. Coleman, Hunt and Arlovski were top 4-7ish heavweights when Fedor beat them
This post was edited on 6/24/13 at 10:00 am
Posted on 6/24/13 at 10:14 am to VerlanderBEAST
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Yes. Coleman, Hunt and Arlovski were top 4-7ish heavweights when Fedor beat them
Coleman was at the end of his career and went 1-2 in his next 3 fights. Hunt lost 6 fights in a row and 4 after fedor beat him. Arlovski lost his next 3 after his fedor fight. Apparently they were a bit overrated.
I know I'll probably be in the minority here, but I believe a prime fedor would get tooled by Cain or JDS.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 10:21 am to SlowFlowPro
i do think fedor will continue to get an unfair analysis as time goes forward b/c of the pro-UFC fanbase here
Fedor was the greatest. I don't think anyone will dispute that. But, any fedor fan with half a brain will admit that he didn't fight anyone for a long time while he was considered the greatest.
Fedor was the greatest. I don't think anyone will dispute that. But, any fedor fan with half a brain will admit that he didn't fight anyone for a long time while he was considered the greatest.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 11:06 am to lance814
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I know I'll probably be in the minority here, but I believe a prime fedor would get tooled by Cain or JDS.
Cain maybe, JDS no way
This post was edited on 6/24/13 at 11:07 am
Posted on 6/24/13 at 12:52 pm to lance814
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Coleman was at the end of his career and went 1-2 in his next 3 fights. Hunt lost 6 fights in a row and 4 after fedor beat him. Arlovski lost his next 3 after his fedor fight. Apparently they were a bit overrated.
I know I'll probably be in the minority here, but I believe a prime fedor would get tooled by Cain or JDS.
Yes they were at the end of their careers, has nothing to do with them being among the 7 or so best heayweights in the world when they fought Fedor.
Also Pride rules Fedor beats both Cain and JDS by armbar.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 12:53 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
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But, any fedor fan with half a brain will admit that he didn't fight anyone for a long time while he was considered the greatest.
You keep saying this but you fail to say what "long time" it was when he didn't fight anyone?
Posted on 6/24/13 at 12:55 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Coleman was at the end of his career and went 1-2 in his next 3 fights. Hunt lost 6 fights in a row and 4 after fedor beat him. Arlovski lost his next 3 after his fedor fight. Apparently they were a bit overrated.
I know I'll probably be in the minority here, but I believe a prime fedor would get tooled by Cain or JDS.
Yes they were at the end of their careers, has nothing to do with them being among the 7 or so best heayweights in the world when they fought Fedor.
Also Pride rules Fedor beats both Cain and JDS by armbar.
quote:
But, any fedor fan with half a brain will admit that he didn't fight anyone for a long time while he was considered the greatest.
You keep saying this but you fail to say what "long time" it was when he didn't fight anyone?
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