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Where does Bill Russell rank among the All-Time greatest NBA players?

Posted on 10/23/26 at 11:07 am
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 10/23/26 at 11:07 am
He won 11 titles, yet few ever mention him when discussing the greats.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 10/23/26 at 11:08 am to
Iconic
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 10/23/26 at 11:20 am to
He’s top 10 easily.
Posted by JerryTheKingBawler
South of Memphis
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 10/23/26 at 11:21 am to
About tree fiddy
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
31700 posts
Posted on 10/23/26 at 11:23 am to
Ahead of LeBron, behind Michael Jordan.
Posted by coolpapaboze
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22572 posts
Posted on 10/23/26 at 11:25 am to
He's #1 on the list of Angriest NBA Players. Dude always came across as really bitter.
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
16095 posts
Posted on 10/23/26 at 11:31 am to
I find it difficult to place him Top 5 due to the fact he played when the league only had eight teams.
Posted by Cleathecat
Houston
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Posted on 10/23/26 at 11:39 am to
I think he gets plenty of mention among the greats
Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
14832 posts
Posted on 10/23/26 at 11:47 am to
One of the best in Men’s NBA history.
Posted by TheDeathValley
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2010
21059 posts
Posted on 10/23/26 at 11:58 am to
Top 10 just not sure where
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28178 posts
Posted on 10/23/26 at 12:05 pm to
I think he’s one of the most overrated players ever. He won 11 rings, but he played at a time when there were only 8 teams in the entire league and the entire Celtics starting 5 and the 6th man were perennial all-stars and hall-of-famers. Half the teams were in the playoffs and you win 1 series and you’re in the Finals.

His defense and rebounding may have been elite, but his offense was horrific. He averaged 14 pts a game on a putrid percentage.

The only reason he is considered one of the best ever is because of the overrated rings argument and the fact that he played in an era where his unique ability as an athletic rebounding shot blocker could stand out.

He played a ton of minutes… often averaging over 40 per game. If you put his scoring on a per 36 minute basis, he averaged 12.8 pts per game. His TS% was a god-awful 47%. For a big man. 47% for a big man is absolutely atrocious. For reference, of all Centers last season who played at least half the season and at least 20 minutes per game, the Center who is dead last in the league in TS% shot 54%. Bill Russell shot 47%. A gigantic, distant dead last.

If you include forwards today under that same criteria, he still ranks dead last. Dead last in the NBA last year was Herbert Jones, who averaged 49%. Still two points ahead of “all-time great” Bill Russell. In fact, I just ran it and included every single player in the NBA. The very last player in the NBA in TS% is Nolan Traore, who shot 47.9. Bill Russell shot 47.1. Still comfortably dead last.

That’s fine for a defensive specialist, shot-blocking, rim protecting, rebounding machine. That is absolutely a winning player you’d want on your team regardless of offensive limitations. However, we’re talking about all-time greats here. In order to be considered an all-time great, you have to be elite on both sides of the ball. Or at least respectable on the other side.
This post was edited on 10/23/26 at 12:25 pm
Posted by GoShoughYourself
Member since May 2026
502 posts
Posted on 10/23/26 at 12:08 pm to
Not Top 10

Probably in the 11-15 range

Very overrated and played against plumbers
Posted by OhioLSUfan
Columbus, OH
Member since Oct 2007
2147 posts
Posted on 10/23/26 at 12:32 pm to
I think hes overrated because he was the center on a team that always won ‘chips - he had awesome teammates.
Everyone who fawns over him says “his value meant more than his stats would indicate” ie they are making excuses to put him amongst the all time greats.
He would be draymond green or Rodman in today’s world where stats count
Posted by BeachDude022
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36702 posts
Posted on 10/23/26 at 12:37 pm to
MJ, Kobe, Russell, Wilt, and Kareem are
my top 5. frick Leflop
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
28522 posts
Posted on 10/23/26 at 12:38 pm to
Top 6-8, IMO
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
75919 posts
Posted on 10/23/26 at 12:41 pm to
More like a mix of Kevin Garnett, Ben Wallace and Joakim Noah than Rodman or Green.
Posted by Underwood
Member since Dec 2022
2001 posts
Posted on 10/23/26 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

He's #1 on the list of Angriest NBA Players. Dude always came across as really bitter.


Dude experienced real racism, he has every reason to be

quote:

Rank


No higher than 2, no lower than 10
This post was edited on 10/23/26 at 12:48 pm
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
57984 posts
Posted on 10/23/26 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

I think he’s one of the most overrated players ever. He won 11 rings, but he played at a time when there were only 8 teams in the entire league and the entire Celtics starting 5 and the 6th man were perennial all-stars and hall-of-famers. Half the teams were in the playoffs and you win 1 series and you’re in the Finals.

His defense and rebounding may have been elite, but his offense was horrific. He averaged 14 pts a game on a putrid percentage.

The only reason he is considered one of the best ever is because of the overrated rings argument and the fact that he played in an era where his unique ability as an athletic rebounding shot blocker could stand out.

He played a ton of minutes… often averaging over 40 per game. If you put his scoring on a per 36 minute basis, he averaged 12.8 pts per game. His TS% was a god-awful 47%. For a big man. 47% for a big man is absolutely atrocious. For reference, of all Centers last season who played at least half the season and at least 20 minutes per game, the Center who is dead last in the league in TS% shot 54%. Bill Russell shot 47%. A gigantic, distant dead last.

If you include forwards today under that same criteria, he still ranks dead last. Dead last in the NBA last year was Herbert Jones, who averaged 49%. Still two points ahead of “all-time great” Bill Russell. In fact, I just ran it and included every single player in the NBA. The very last player in the NBA in TS% is Nolan Traore, who shot 47.9. Bill Russell shot 47.1. Still comfortably dead last.

That’s fine for a defensive specialist, shot-blocking, rim protecting, rebounding machine. That is absolutely a winning player you’d want on your team regardless of offensive limitations. However, we’re talking about all-time greats here. In order to be considered an all-time great, you have to be elite on both sides of the ball. Or at least respectable on the other side.


This is the kind of stuff I like to read on here.
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
8772 posts
Posted on 10/23/26 at 12:56 pm to
definitely ahead of lebron at least.
Posted by Juan Betanzos
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2005
4978 posts
Posted on 10/23/26 at 1:20 pm to
Debatable on what position of this list…but easily in a Top 10
Not only did he have outstanding performances/accomplishments….but he did it in the world of 1950’s -1960’s racism

11 time NBA champion
12 time (out of a 13 year career) NBA ALL-STAR
5 time (nearly 1/2 of his career) NBA MVP

That’s just the main awards….there were many more
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