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When did Jon Gruden become a great coach
Posted on 4/16/12 at 8:26 pm
Posted on 4/16/12 at 8:26 pm
I mean what has he done to deserve to get his name mentioned for every open position on earth. He did not do that well in the pros. I know he won a SB but any coach could have with those players. He is very overrated. Mooch is way passed his prime, not a college guy. I think they will end up with Butch Davis.
This post was edited on 4/16/12 at 8:29 pm
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 8:26 pm to nuke
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 8:27 pm to Jon Ham
When he ruined Tony Dungy's superbowl winning Tampa Bay Bucs.
Posted on 4/16/12 at 8:27 pm to nuke
When he last coached in college 21 years ago.
Posted on 4/16/12 at 8:27 pm to Jon Ham
when he won a superbowl? Or won his fifth division title?
Posted on 4/16/12 at 8:28 pm to nuke
When he was way more successful than saban was in the NFL
Posted on 4/16/12 at 8:29 pm to blzr
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When he was way more successful than saban was in the NFL
your frustration and despair are like a fine wine.
Posted on 4/16/12 at 8:30 pm to nuke
The day he stopped coaching
Posted on 4/16/12 at 8:31 pm to nuke
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He is very overrated.
ok
Posted on 4/16/12 at 8:34 pm to nuke
The year he won the SB, the team he beat he also built.
If not for a goofy arse ruling the Raiders may have gone to the SB the year before too.
If not for a goofy arse ruling the Raiders may have gone to the SB the year before too.
Posted on 4/16/12 at 8:41 pm to OBUDan
yeah people forget chucky turned that raiders team around and made them into badasses
Posted on 4/16/12 at 8:56 pm to OBUDan
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The year he won the SB, the team he beat he also built.
Now, by saying "also" I guess that means you're saying he built Tampa Bay too? He won the superbowl his firt year there! Thats hardly building
Posted on 4/16/12 at 8:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
he should have possibly won a super bowl with the raiders if it wasn't for the bs of the tuck rule
Posted on 4/16/12 at 8:57 pm to TigerBait1127
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he should have possibly won a super bowl
Pretty big if there...
Posted on 4/16/12 at 8:58 pm to nuke
Brian Billick is as good as Gruden, and has similar career numbers, but no one gushes over him like Gruden.
Posted on 4/16/12 at 8:58 pm to nuke
Good coach.
Being a rah rah fiery guy people see on TV every week makes him a "great coach".
Being a rah rah fiery guy people see on TV every week makes him a "great coach".
Posted on 4/16/12 at 8:59 pm to Srbtiger06
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Pretty big if there...
well the rams were pretty bad arse at the time, should at least have been an afc championship
This post was edited on 4/16/12 at 8:59 pm
Posted on 4/16/12 at 8:59 pm to TigerBait1127
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well the rams were pretty bad arse at the time, should at least have been an afc championship
Probably but still. I don't like to use "should have possibly" when talking about a guy's merits.
Posted on 4/16/12 at 9:03 pm to nuke
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I know he won a SB but any coach could have with those players.
tell that to Tony Dungy.
Tampa Bay was damn good when he got there though. They came pretty close to upsetting the Rams in the NFC Championship in 1999. They got screwed when the refs over turned Bert Emanuel's catch. Not saying they would have gone on to win but they were about to get inside the redzone. Gruden coached 11 years and only suffered three losing seasons in that span.
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