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re: what's your no. 1 suggestion for fixing NIL?
Posted on 12/4/24 at 10:37 pm to WaydownSouth
Posted on 12/4/24 at 10:37 pm to WaydownSouth
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3 years on a campus then you can go pro or transfer unless your position coach/coordinator or head coach leave. Or you can transfer after 1 but must sit a year
Considering how often position coaches and coordinators leave, I doubt this is something that plays a big effect on the portal.
Personally, I think they should just go to the original rule. Everyone is granted 1 free transfer, and that's it. No exceptions. If you want to transfer again, then you must sit out a year.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 11:07 pm to tom
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The top 20-30 schools will form a professional league in order to better control the money.
This is absolutely going to happen. Might be 30-40 teams. It will be about not splitting the TV contract with have-nots who don't add to the pie. Will be interesting who gets in and who is left out.
It will be a league like the NFL, schools pay players, players will form a union, and they will have a collectively bargained contract.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 11:12 pm to Cannon856
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NIL money isn’t a salary. No way they will be able to cap NIL money
Why dont NFL owners make fake companies to pay their players in “endorsement deals” to avoid cap?
Thats essentially what NIL is
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 11:13 pm
Posted on 12/4/24 at 11:24 pm to stephendomalley
Fantasyland? Form a minor league like baseball and get rid of NIL and payment altogether at academic institutions. Keep athletic scholarships to some degree.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 12:51 am to Dire Wolf
earn all you want, but it shouldn't be to attend a school. it's bs. the pros even have a salary cap to play for certain teams.
this really sucks.
this really sucks.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 2:20 am to stephendomalley
Make the kid payback a prorated amount if he transfers
Posted on 12/5/24 at 3:36 am to stephendomalley
There is no suggestion for fixing it or reining it in. Every state is making different laws and the NCAA gets bitch slapped in court every time they try to enforce their own rules. They have no choice but to let it go as is.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 4:23 am to stephendomalley
Make the athletes earn their own money as NIL was intended to allow, rather than put themselves out there in a bidding war.
A rule the NCAA should have enacted was: Anyone with connections to a school is prohibited from giving athletes money under the guise of NIL - just like it was previously. Again, athletes can earn their own money and the NCAA should not say a word. But when things are clearly connected to a school, you have serious issues. If the CEO of Wendy's is an Auburn alum, he can't be doing commercials or endorsement deals with Auburn athletes with Wendy's. This is too easy to figure out. Phil Knight can donate all he wants to Oregon, but he and Nike cannot give money to Oregon athletes.
Then tweak the transfer portal so that players can no longer be "temporarily committed" as Saban puts it, and things will calm down. If they do nothing, fans are going to become fed up with the vast majority of NIL money being a zero ROI, and they'll just bail on NIL, and the temporarily committed thing is an absolute death blow to college athletics.
If there was ever a time for the NCAA to be heavy handed, NIL is the time. All those years when they banned athletes from having a summer job and so forth, they were idiots. Now they have something that might destroy the sport and they are a hands off. Just an impotent organization.
The people in charge of CFB are idiots and they are going to end up breaking this sport, and when that happens athletic departments will collapse, and then we're going to get the govt involved and then it gets really stupid.
A rule the NCAA should have enacted was: Anyone with connections to a school is prohibited from giving athletes money under the guise of NIL - just like it was previously. Again, athletes can earn their own money and the NCAA should not say a word. But when things are clearly connected to a school, you have serious issues. If the CEO of Wendy's is an Auburn alum, he can't be doing commercials or endorsement deals with Auburn athletes with Wendy's. This is too easy to figure out. Phil Knight can donate all he wants to Oregon, but he and Nike cannot give money to Oregon athletes.
Then tweak the transfer portal so that players can no longer be "temporarily committed" as Saban puts it, and things will calm down. If they do nothing, fans are going to become fed up with the vast majority of NIL money being a zero ROI, and they'll just bail on NIL, and the temporarily committed thing is an absolute death blow to college athletics.
If there was ever a time for the NCAA to be heavy handed, NIL is the time. All those years when they banned athletes from having a summer job and so forth, they were idiots. Now they have something that might destroy the sport and they are a hands off. Just an impotent organization.
The people in charge of CFB are idiots and they are going to end up breaking this sport, and when that happens athletic departments will collapse, and then we're going to get the govt involved and then it gets really stupid.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 5:23 am to stephendomalley
Get rid of it. They are STUDENT athletes. That's what scholarships are for.
Either that or start paying band, cheer, danceline, etc. who also give up a lot of their time and effort for games.
Either that or start paying band, cheer, danceline, etc. who also give up a lot of their time and effort for games.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 5:27 am to Cosmo
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Why dont NFL owners make fake companies to pay their players in “endorsement deals” to avoid cap?
Because the owners are already paying the players millions. The players wouldn't sign with that organization if they weren't getting paid.
The universities themselves are paying the players 0. Technically not zero, because they have endowments, but almost 0.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 5:28 am to TigerSooner
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Either that or start paying band, cheer, danceline, etc. who also give up a lot of their time and effort for games
They do get paid.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 5:29 am to stephendomalley
Blow it up.
Essentially make it a minor league system. Players who are good enough can get paid to go to this league directly out of high school.
For the rest, come up with a new college football legislative body and have college football the way it was forever. No transfers, no NIL. Must attend for 3 years.
No playoffs. Bring back the BCS.
Essentially make it a minor league system. Players who are good enough can get paid to go to this league directly out of high school.
For the rest, come up with a new college football legislative body and have college football the way it was forever. No transfers, no NIL. Must attend for 3 years.
No playoffs. Bring back the BCS.
This post was edited on 12/5/24 at 5:31 am
Posted on 12/5/24 at 5:47 am to TheBob
Brilliant idea. Except the part where every single person in that situation loses out.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:43 am to Civildawg
Put a cap on those under 21. Easier to get away with minors.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:45 am to stephendomalley
The only thing I can see that could help negate it somewhat is if you spend x amount on NIL, you get less of the cut in revenue sharing
or some agreed upon valuation system and a player can’t exceed more than that in NIL money, but I doubt that’s feasible.
or some agreed upon valuation system and a player can’t exceed more than that in NIL money, but I doubt that’s feasible.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:55 am to stephendomalley
NIL isn’t killing the sport. The transfer portal is
Posted on 12/5/24 at 7:58 am to WaterLink
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The transfer rules need to be fixed before NIL
This exactly, the NIL even if left alone would fix itself, eventually and would be ugly but basic economics would rise to the top. But the transfer thing needs some guardrails just from a roster management standpoint if nothing else. These things combined are leaving zero depth even at the blue blood programs. Kids now are going to “sit and wait their turn, pay their dues” lol please. They are off to the portal to get playing time and hopefully some money.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 8:01 am to SA4LSU
I think the courts have recently almost entirely destroyed the idea of non-compete clauses in business. So they would probably apply that doctrine to any attempt to limit transfers.
Truly, the federal court system fricked the colleges when it comes to athletics. Meanwhile, pro sports are left mostly unchecked and free from antitrust restrictions.
Truly, the federal court system fricked the colleges when it comes to athletics. Meanwhile, pro sports are left mostly unchecked and free from antitrust restrictions.
This post was edited on 12/5/24 at 8:02 am
Posted on 12/5/24 at 8:02 am to SECSolomonGrundy
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I think the courts have recently almost entirely destroyed the idea of non-compete clauses in business. So they would probably apply that doctrine to any attempt to limit transfers.
I believe that case was dismissed and all states can enforce non-competes if they choose so. I believe CA has a state law against it though.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 8:07 am to stephendomalley
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what's your no. 1 suggestion for fixing NIL?
Binding contracts tied to scholarships. With penalties of breach.
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