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re: What NBA team can battle the Super Friends in Miami?
Posted on 7/16/10 at 4:02 pm to Colonel Flagg
Posted on 7/16/10 at 4:02 pm to Colonel Flagg
It's not a huge advantage, but he's pretty much a better player. What do you think Bosh does better than Gasol?
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Posted on 7/16/10 at 4:09 pm to supatigah
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supatigah
I was really excited about the Celtics signing O'neil but then I realized he is not all that useful. Hopefully that will change.
Oh and the next time I text you, fricking respond to me.
Posted on 7/16/10 at 5:19 pm to AlexLSU
quote:
Gasol is just a better player.
Gasol, even when he was "the man" in Memphis, never averaged more thatn 20 PPG
Bosh has averaged over 22 PPG over the last 5 years. scoring 24 PPG last year
last year was Gasol's first year rebounding in double figures. Bosh has done it 3 times already.
you're a LakerTard
lets look at their career numbers
Bosh 20 PPG
Gasol 18 PPG
Bosh 9.4 RPG
Gasol 9.0 RPG
Bosh 2.4 APG
Gasol 3.4 APG
Bosh 1.2 BLK
Gasol 1.7 BLK
Bosh 49% FG
Gasol 52 % FG
Bosh 79% FT
Gasol 74% FT
man Gasol is soooo much better
This post was edited on 7/16/10 at 5:22 pm
Posted on 7/17/10 at 10:56 am to Lester Earl
Maybe you can explain to me how career numbers are even remotely relevant to these two guys now, because I don't see what merit that has at all. So Gasol was soft and afraid to bang with other bigs in the past, what does that have to do with now? He let Boston push him around in 2008, but he was the aggressor this season. Career numbers aren't indicative of the two players now.
Currently:
better low post game? Gasol
better offensive game? Gasol
better passer? Gasol
better defender? Gasol
better rebounder? Gasol
more experienced? Gasol
Tell me what Bosh does right now better than Gasol.
Currently:
better low post game? Gasol
better offensive game? Gasol
better passer? Gasol
better defender? Gasol
better rebounder? Gasol
more experienced? Gasol
Tell me what Bosh does right now better than Gasol.
Posted on 7/17/10 at 11:08 am to AlexLSU
I think Gasol is the best PF in the league and a case could be made for him being the best overall big man, but he's not just going to dominate Bosh.
It's amazing how Bosh has gone from being slightly overrated to vastly underrated in a matter of months - at least on this board.
It's amazing how Bosh has gone from being slightly overrated to vastly underrated in a matter of months - at least on this board.
Posted on 7/17/10 at 11:23 am to PortCityTiger24
The Thunder could take them to 7 games.
Posted on 7/17/10 at 11:38 am to supatigah
The Lakers will beat them in 2011. It'll be tough for the Heat to win with Juwan Howard, Big Z and Penny Hardaway as its top bench players.
Posted on 7/17/10 at 11:56 am to PortCityTiger24
And I said though I think Gasol is a better player in basically every aspect, it's not a big enough gap to where he'd dominate Bosh. Bosh is a really good player, potentially the 3rd best post player in the league, but I think the strides Pau has made since coming to LA are huge. He's definitely passed up Bosh, and his improvements as a defender put him really close to Howard's overall value as a post player IMO
Posted on 7/18/10 at 12:28 am to supatigah
Don't think so.
LeBron wants to win. He'll do what he needs to do to win.
LeBron wants to win. He'll do what he needs to do to win.
Posted on 7/18/10 at 12:37 am to Charles Bronson
bibby/teague = chalmers
JJ >> wade
marvin = lebron
josh smith >>>>>>>> bosh
horford >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>random
JJ >> wade
marvin = lebron
josh smith >>>>>>>> bosh
horford >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>random
Posted on 7/18/10 at 12:38 am to AlexLSU
quote:
etter low post game? Gasol
better offensive game? Gasol
better passer? Gasol
better defender? Gasol
better rebounder? Gasol
more experienced? Gasol
more experienced is about the only thing he can hang his hat on.
and maybe a better passer.
everything else is a toss up pretty much.
how you can sit here and definitively call Gasol a better offensive player, and a better rebounder simply blows my mind. You're obv a huge Laker homer.
quote:
Career numbers aren't indicative of the two players now.
ok, then what is? Their numbers this year?
you seem to think Gasol is better because he plays on a better team. There isnt much of a gap in talent, if any at all. GAsol is pretty much the same player he was in Memphis. I dont care if he screams as he runs down the court after a big dunk. OMG he is so aggressive now!!!
you have to be able compare players individually and without other outside variables if you want to seem remotely intelligent about NBA basketball.
This post was edited on 7/18/10 at 12:39 am
Posted on 7/18/10 at 12:46 am to Charles Bronson
quote:
LeBron wants to win. He'll do what he needs to do to win.
the point is.......what if what Lebron thinks he needs to do to win is actually the thing that prevents them from winning? If the guy is as deluded as this article makes him appear then what is there that should make us believe that he will suddenly "get it?"
In other words he was told by some influential people that The Decision was a bad idea and he did it anyway. He does what he wants to do and he thinks that Cleveland will forget what he did and love him again. Just because he is a good passer doesnt mean he is "unselfish." On and off the court
Posted on 7/18/10 at 11:02 am to Lester Earl
So because I think Gasol is better, that makes me a Lakers homer? Does anyone in this thread think that Bosh is a better player than Gasol? And even though I say Wade and Kobe (who is by far my favorite player) is a wash, I'm still obviously a homer. Just because people's opinions differ from yours doesn't mean they're a homer. You've been riding this super team hard ever since it was assembled, omg Lester is a homer without
objectivity!
You say Gasol is a better passer and more experienced, but everything else is a "toss up." Well, sounds like you can't definitely say that Bosh is better at anything. You know why? Because he isn't.
Their numbers and play recently are what I go by. Numbers from 2005 aren't indicative of their level of play in 2010, but 2009 numbers are a pretty good indicator. It has nothing to do with him playing for a better team either. Gasol is a better defensive player now than when he first game to LA. He is a better rebounder, shot blocker and shot alterer than Bosh. Offensively, Gasol has a more diverse offensive game. His low post moves are the BEST of any elite post player. He can use both hands, has a jump hook, and can power his way inside. On top of that, he's a good spot up shooter. Bosh has a really good midrange game for a big man, but his low post game is not on the same level.
Just answer me this:
Is Bosh a better offensive OR defensive player? There's nothing wrong with being the 3rd best post player in the game.
We will see how it plays out when the season starts
objectivity!
You say Gasol is a better passer and more experienced, but everything else is a "toss up." Well, sounds like you can't definitely say that Bosh is better at anything. You know why? Because he isn't.
Their numbers and play recently are what I go by. Numbers from 2005 aren't indicative of their level of play in 2010, but 2009 numbers are a pretty good indicator. It has nothing to do with him playing for a better team either. Gasol is a better defensive player now than when he first game to LA. He is a better rebounder, shot blocker and shot alterer than Bosh. Offensively, Gasol has a more diverse offensive game. His low post moves are the BEST of any elite post player. He can use both hands, has a jump hook, and can power his way inside. On top of that, he's a good spot up shooter. Bosh has a really good midrange game for a big man, but his low post game is not on the same level.
Just answer me this:
Is Bosh a better offensive OR defensive player? There's nothing wrong with being the 3rd best post player in the game.
We will see how it plays out when the season starts
Posted on 7/18/10 at 11:17 am to SELUBoi
quote:
I wonder if he can mimic Doc Rivers/Phil Jackson and manage all those egos.
Don't forget his boss is Pat Riley. Also Spoelstra's dad was a former NBA executive with four different teams. He has plenty of resources at his disposal.
Posted on 7/18/10 at 11:22 am to supatigah
The Hornets
CP3 >>>> The Three Kings
MT5 >>> The remaining players
CP3 >>>> The Three Kings
MT5 >>> The remaining players
Posted on 7/18/10 at 11:55 am to supatigah
quote:
Could the super friends be undone by Lebron's own selfishness and immaturity?
Considering the quotes about Lebron from Coach K during those Olympics, i see that as highly unlikely.
This post was edited on 7/18/10 at 11:56 am
Posted on 7/18/10 at 12:00 pm to supatigah
quote:
He does what he wants to do and he thinks that Cleveland will forget what he did and love him again
thats what happens when you are surrounded by yes men
Posted on 7/18/10 at 12:28 pm to AlexLSU
quote:
So because I think Gasol is better, that makes me a Lakers homer? Does anyone in this thread think that Bosh is a better player than Gasol?
Dude, I dont have a problem with you saying Gasol is better than Bosh.
But when you say there is absolutely nothing Bosh does better than Gasol.....come on.
even if you want to go by "now" and not career, Bosh is a better scorer than Gasol and at least an equal rebounder.
That is what makes you a homer.
Posted on 8/18/10 at 12:53 pm to supatigah
something tells me Pittman isnt going to be much help in Miami this season:
or Pat Riley is going to personally oversee running that gut off this kid
they didnt have Miami Heat game shorts big enough to fit him so he had to wear some practice shorts
nba rookie photo shoot
LINK
or Pat Riley is going to personally oversee running that gut off this kid
they didnt have Miami Heat game shorts big enough to fit him so he had to wear some practice shorts
nba rookie photo shoot
LINK
This post was edited on 8/18/10 at 12:56 pm
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