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re: What is the worst contract in sports?

Posted on 4/24/16 at 12:06 pm to
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/24/16 at 12:06 pm to
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The deal was negotiated in 2000. He gets $1.19M starting in 2011 for the next 25 years. If you assign an 8% discount rate to that, it has a cash value of $6.35M in 2000.

By almost any financial measure it wasn't a bad deal in 2000 and it still isn't a bad deal today provided they invested the money accordingly.



Exactly.

It's not a bad deal really at all. The Mets should actually be pretty proud of that deal
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 4/24/16 at 12:08 pm to
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That Wright connection really is a cool story, bro.




It isn't like I'm some deranged Mets fan, but this stuff is pretty easy to look up for anyone who would like to get their facts straight.
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The Mets were all too happy to be rid of Bonilla at whatever conceivable cost. The fans were happy, and Bobby Bonilla was really happy. The Mets were only swindled in the sense that the reason that they were so comfortable about their long-term prospects is that they were investing in a Ponzi scheme. But at the time, the idea that this was a worthwhile move — to free up the short-term cash and flexibility that could help win a World Series — was prevalent.

In fact, by freeing up that nearly $6 million, the Mets were able to make moves like trading for Mike Hampton, then a prime No. 2 pitcher who, as any Cardinals fan might tell you, almost singlehandedly won the 2000 National League Championship Series. That likely never happens if Bonilla is still in Queens. At least the Mets got a pennant for their troubles, which is more than can be said for Baltimore, which is paying Bonilla $500,000 a year through 2015 in a similar buyout negotiated years before the Mets did theirs.

Hampton, coming off a 22-win campaign with Houston in 1999, earned $5.75 million in 2000 — almost the exact amount the Mets kicked down the road by deferring payments to Bonilla. And Hampton pitched well in the club’s rotation in 2000, then earned the NLCS MVP by throwing 16 shutout innings in two starts against the Cardinals to help the franchise to its fourth World Series berth.

And the Bonilla deal only gets better: When Hampton signed perhaps the worst free-agent contract in baseball history with the Colorado Rockies that offseason, the Mets received a compensatory first-round draft pick, the 38th overall selection in 2001.

With that pick, the one they got for Mike Hampton — whom they were able to afford because they deferred payments to Bonilla — the Mets selected a Virginia high-school infielder named David Wright. Wright grew up to become arguably the best position player in franchise history, the Mets’ all-time leader in practically everything.


LINK

The only part that screwed the Mets was the fact that they were heavily involved with Bernie Madoff and the returns he was providing gave them a false sense of security.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14967 posts
Posted on 4/24/16 at 12:09 pm to
Bruce Sutter has been getting paid 1.2+ million since 1988, and will continue till he turns 67.

that pisses on Bonillas contract.


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$750,000 salary for each of the next six years and a minimum of $1.12 million a year for the remaining 30 years of the contract. In addition, he will get the $9.1 million in so-called "principal" at the end.


he also get 12% interest on the payments.



This post was edited on 4/24/16 at 12:11 pm
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44902 posts
Posted on 4/24/16 at 12:09 pm to
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The deal was negotiated in 2000. He gets $1.19M starting in 2011 for the next 25 years. If you assign an 8% discount rate to that, it has a cash value of $6.35M in 2000.


They did that deal to off set him getting a lump sum of $5.9 million. Which would pretty much be a wash. The reason the Mets want to do the deal is that the owner had his money with Madoff, 'making' 20% returns.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 4/24/16 at 12:11 pm to
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t's not a bad deal really at all. The Mets should actually be pretty proud of that deal



It was a buyout, so both sides are really just negotiating how efficiently the money will be paid. They owed him $5.9M no matter what, so this deal put them on the hook for approximately $400k more in 2000 dollars, but allowed him to start getting paid in 2011-2035.

You can probably argue that as a percentage of payroll and a percentage of club valuation this deal is phenomenal in the long run.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39417 posts
Posted on 4/24/16 at 12:18 pm to
Steve Young played only two years (and last played for the LA Express in 1985.)

They are still paying him $1 mil a year.
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
29264 posts
Posted on 4/24/16 at 12:19 pm to
Vernon Wells' deal was horrible at the time. $120/7 was big money and he didn't do much.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
34684 posts
Posted on 4/24/16 at 12:39 pm to
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Steve Young played only two years (and last played for the LA Express in 1985.)

They are still paying him $1 mil a year.



I wonder what the NFL pay structure would be like today if the USFL lasted for ten more years. NFL players might have fully guaranteed contracts with no salary cap in place. The worst thing that ever happened to professional football players was the USFL folding as quickly as it did.
Posted by RyanL
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2016
35 posts
Posted on 4/24/16 at 12:52 pm to
Is that the one that trump ruined?
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 4/24/16 at 12:53 pm to
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Disagree. They weren't going to contend for a while but still having Kobe made them a lot of money. He was bad enough to not make them winners but still could put on enough of a show to draw crowds. Good contract for the Lakers


People keep saying this but they didn't draw crowds. Attendance and ticket prices were down since that contract.

Now they did suck but they sucked in spite of their efforts. They did try to reel in Lamarcus Aldridge, which would have foiled their efforts to get a top pick this year.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 4/24/16 at 12:58 pm to
Bobby Bonilla
Posted by little billy
Orange County, CA
Member since May 2015
8469 posts
Posted on 4/24/16 at 1:08 pm to
There seems to be a recurring theme with the Angels and bad contracts. Pujols, Hamilton, Wells. Mo Vaughn was a horrible signing for the Angels as well.
Posted by razorbackfan4life
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2011
9441 posts
Posted on 4/24/16 at 1:17 pm to
I'm probably the biggest Joe Johnson fan alive, but that max contract he got from Atlanta was one of the worst I've ever seen. Sure he was still playing great, but he was getting older at that point. Made no sense.

I mean for fricks sake he got more than any other free agent that year
Posted by AjaxFury
In & out of The Matrix
Member since Sep 2014
9928 posts
Posted on 4/24/16 at 1:31 pm to
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Josh Hamilton's Angels deal. Were the Rangers on the hook for any of that when they acquired him?





Angels at all of it , except rangers only on hook for 3 yr/$7M. Low risk move, Rangers make that move 10/10 times.

Arte Moreno makes some dumb decisions. In addition to Vernon Wells, don't forget signing Gary Matthews Jr after he had 1 good year to a 5 yr/$50 M deal .
Posted by WhoGeaux
Member since Apr 2011
5538 posts
Posted on 4/24/16 at 1:33 pm to
The worst contract in sports is the one that Fox has with it's Baton Rouge affiliate (WGMB). Every sporting event they broadcast looks like shite.
Posted by 3morereps
The Gym
Member since Jun 2015
6735 posts
Posted on 4/24/16 at 1:35 pm to
Jayson Werth of the Nationals- think he's making top ten money, like $22,000,000/per
This post was edited on 4/24/16 at 1:35 pm
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
29264 posts
Posted on 4/24/16 at 1:35 pm to
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Hamilton


They're still on the hook for ~$24M this year and next aren't they?

I know they ended up eating nearly $20M to Wells after the Yankees cut him.
Posted by Akit1
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2006
8343 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 1:39 pm to
Bryant Reeves aka Big Country - Vancouver Grizzlies
Posted by SaturdayTraditions
Down Seven Bridges Rd
Member since Sep 2015
3383 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 1:55 pm to
Easily the contract of Red Klotz, the manager of the Washington Generals.

6 Wins/15,000+ losses from 1952-1995
Posted by Wrenchruh
Parts Unknown
Member since Sep 2012
2413 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 2:34 pm to
My brother always bets on the Generals.

He claims, "They're due."
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