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re: What can the SEC do to try to reclaim its former glory? Is it declining like Rome?

Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:16 pm to
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:16 pm to
If you had said 10 years ago the CFB Championship game would be:

Michigan-Washington

Ohio State-Notre Dame

In back-to-back years....people would think you were insane.

And now Two Big10 and 1 ACC in the Final Four.

One thing the bastardization of CFB with NIL/Portal has done is completely change the landscape and flip the script overnight.

SEC dominance seems like a lifetime/different era ago...things moved so quickly.
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:37 pm to
A bit of a decline in football (5 CFP teams still) but now #1 in basketball.

Posted by StansberryRules
Member since Aug 2024
4552 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:38 pm to
Nothing lasts forever. The Ivy league ruled college football for like 50 years in the early days. Conditions change.
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 3:49 pm
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
10155 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:41 pm to
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Collective bargaining would have to become a thing so you can negotiate fair and competitive salaries for all parties involved. You'd have to make them sign contracts that bind them to a school for at least half of their four years of eligibility. From there they'd get one free transfer to another school where they can finish out their playing career without having to sit out a year. If they transfer again they'd have to wait a year before playing.


Sounds good. Now tell me why the players would ever agree to collectively bargain and agree to such a thing. Why would they? It's the Wild West and the players have all the freedom to do what they want and maximize their rewards. What is in it for them to collectively bargain for restrictions?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35879 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:42 pm to
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They lack depth

The portal has decimated SEC depth. No one can keep their backups and young players who don’t immediately start on the roster.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:43 pm to
You sound as pathetic as the other teams within the SEC who used to cry that only Alabama was paying players
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:49 pm to
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When one of your top teams gives up 34 to Iowa it’s not good.

Iowa would have put up 41, but dropped a 3 yard pitch and catch TD. Game was 2-3 scores for most of the way.

The SEC teams I’ve seen the last few years don’t seem to play with the same intensity they used to. There aren’t a lot of great defenses in the league and while the national media chalks it up to playing all this elite offensive talent, the reality is that they’re just not that great like they used to be.
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 3:52 pm
Posted by The Third Leg
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:56 pm to
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A lot of it is scheme and roster construction and bad coaching. There’s a reason 7 head coaches turned over this off season.

Unreasonable expectations fueled by media hype. You have crap teams like Kentucky firing guys acting like someone’s going to take you higher and maintain it. Most of these schools like Auburn and Florida aren’t built to be perennial contenders in a league that has Georgia at its best and Alabama. They think they’re the same, but they’re not.
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:58 pm to
SEC rehab starts tonight with a Miss St takedown of Wake Forest.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:58 pm to
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If we’re picking arbitrary dates, we can go back to 2013 and say that teams from outside the SEC have won 6 of the last 12. That’s hardly dominant by the SEC.


I mean...how is 50% for only one conference still not dominant?

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This year will probably make 3 years in a row without a SEC team winning it all. I think Ole Miss is the weakest of the 4 teams left.

Gotta pick up on the recent downward trends and do something before it’s too late.

The Wild West era of NIL is going to be ending soon and we're moving into a new era starting next year. The Big10 and a few other programs have spent an incredible amount to compete with the SEC. The paradigm is already changing via the NCAA.
Posted by StroKat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2018
721 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:05 pm to
Who cares. Frick the soft arse SEC.
Posted by StroKat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2018
721 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:07 pm to
Indiana begs to differ.
Posted by cascadia
Georgia
Member since Jan 2014
2557 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:10 pm to
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So we’re gonna ignore the SEC’s dominance from 2019-2022


Claiming COVID years LOL
Posted by The Third Leg
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:12 pm to
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The Big10 and a few other programs have spent an incredible amount to compete with the SEC. The paradigm is already changing via the NCAA.

They’ve spent an incredible sum to overtake the SEC, not compete. It is clear the SEC is no longer competing on the level of the big ten. This is likely to be the third straight for the league while the SEC hasn’t even played in the national final in that time. The SEC is living off its old reputation and mass propaganda from ESPN that paints the conference as murderers row when it is clear that it isn’t.
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 4:16 pm
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34225 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:15 pm to
Of the 12 teams that made the CFP, 5 were from the SEC. Within the bracket there were two games where SEC teams faced each other. That meant at least one SEC team had to lose. There were no other intra conference matchups involving the other conferences.

I think what you are seeing is that the gap between the very top teams of the SEC and the very top teams of the other conferences has shrunk. But, overall, the SEC is still the strongest conference from top to bottom. The league was 11-7 vs. other power conf. opponents in the regular season. The Big 10 was 5-7

Personally, I have never subscribed to "SEC pride". I pull for MY SEC team and love to see my team's rivals lose. But overall, I think parity is a good thing for the sport. I'm sure fans out west, or in the midwest/NE were losing interest watching southern teams dominate the NC every year.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467742 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:15 pm to
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The SEC is living off its old reputation and mass propaganda from ESPN that paints the conference as murderers row when it is clear that it isn’t.


Is the NFL in on the scam?

The SEC dominated the 2023-2025 NFL drafts

I believe they have a 19-year streak as the conference with the most NFL draft picks
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69990 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:17 pm to
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Now tell me why the players would ever agree to collectively bargain and agree to such a thing. Why would they? It's the Wild West and the players have all the freedom to do what they want and maximize their rewards. What is in it for them to collectively bargain for restrictions?


You raise good points, hence why it's probably going to take the intervention of Congress to ultimately force the players' hands. Sooner or later some power has to be given to the schools. If collegiate athletes want to be paid like professionals they should be forced to act like professionals. Even the NFL has contracts that bind players to a team for a certain period of time.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
59034 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:18 pm to
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no SEC team in the national championship game. That’s unacceptable.


What's going to happen?
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
12019 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:20 pm to
The Big ten and SEC have both been filling NFL rosters for a long time. Nobody in here saying the SEC doesn’t have talent. But having NFL draft picks doesn’t guarantee success. Iowa is an NFL factory and they’re not elite, just solid. Like most of the SEC.

With the additions of Oregon and USC and Washington, I can’t imagine the big ten won’t be leading the NFL in terms of pipeline. Those are schools putting out a ton of NFL talent.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467742 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:24 pm to
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The Big ten and SEC have both been filling NFL rosters for a long time.


No conference has done as well as the SEC, even in the NIL era.

You said it was all ESPN propaganda.

QBs, coaches, and slight differences in depth have affected the SEC more than other conferences. Overall the data shows it's still the best, though.

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With the additions of Oregon and USC and Washington, I can’t imagine the big ten won’t be leading the NFL in terms of pipeline.


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