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Posted on 3/9/24 at 7:16 pm to Crimson K
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Somehow spacing the floor and jacking 3’s with absolute shite defense is supposedly superior skill.
Shooting, passing, and movement are skills. All are at all time highs.
Why is playing smarter such an insult to your delicate sensibilities?
Posted on 3/9/24 at 7:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Wait you're saying eliminating illegal defense and allowing partial zones made defense harder? How? That makes negative sense.
These goofs don’t even know what they are saying half the time at this point. Jordan obviously would have been incredible in any era but the king of isolation being able to absolutely cook people with zero help defenders due to the rules at that time benefitted him more than anyone of that era.
Here’s some .gifs with the ball handler in nearly the exact same situations for those who cannot understand what I am referring to
Posted on 3/9/24 at 7:18 pm to rocket31
I'd like to see the correlation bt people who think Jordan played against plumbers and people who think Babe Ruth is the goat
Posted on 3/9/24 at 7:19 pm to Corinthians420
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As opposed to just standing still with the ball for half an offensive possession with only 1 person making a move LINK
Those were also 2 of the most advanced offenses in the NBA at that time, as they were pre Dantoni. Only Don Nelson tried anything more imaginative than those 2 systems.
Posted on 3/9/24 at 7:21 pm to David Ricky
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Here’s some .gifs with the ball handler in nearly the exact same situations for those who cannot understand what I am referring to
But yeah since that help defender could do anything in the illegal defense era the same but not help, clearly it is easier on Lebron
As if you could plant your arse in the lane on defense at all with the illegal defense rule
Posted on 3/9/24 at 7:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Shooting, passing, and movement are skills. All are at all time highs
Shooting is improved in that any appearance of contact is a foul, so there are way more open shots. Metrics actually say that 3 shooting is way up, but midrange shooting is all time poor. Is that really skill, or just specialization ? As far as movement, that is just funny. You have guys whose entire role is to stand in the corner to catch and shoot.
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Why is playing smarter such an insult to your delicate sensibilities?
Smarter? They are playing the way league rules have encouraged them to. The game evolved. Sorry you get your arse chapped by the fact that modern game is boring.
Posted on 3/9/24 at 7:48 pm to Crimson K
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Metrics actually say that 3 shooting is way up, but midrange shooting is all time poor. Is that really skill, or just specialization ?
Now do free throws
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As far as movement, that is just funny. You have guys whose entire role is to stand in the corner to catch and shoot.
As opposed to 80% of the offense standing around?
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Smarter? They are playing the way league rules have encouraged them to.
Nothing prevented offense like this in the 90s
Bad coaching/strategy is why they were limited.
No rule change (since the 80s) has shifted the offensive or defensive balance more than the partial zones giving defenses huge advantages.
Posted on 3/9/24 at 8:03 pm to Crimson K
The modern game IS boring.
Posted on 3/9/24 at 8:34 pm to rocket31
upvote.
Posted on 3/9/24 at 10:36 pm to sugar71
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Bill Russell needs both hands & not some cute glamour photos from jock sniffers.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 7:24 am to rocket31
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bron is karl malones size, with MJs athleticism / basketball IQ, and magic passing ability :
And yet Bird would have him crying on the bench.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 7:30 am to rocket31
That pussy would not have lasted
Posted on 3/10/24 at 7:41 am to rocket31
Lebron is a beta racist douchebag that would have come off the bench in that era
Posted on 3/10/24 at 7:43 am to dnm3305
Slow flow why do you love arguing in every thread? I’ve never seen such a staunch contrarian in all of my days.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 8:16 am to Crimson K
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As far as movement, that is just funny. You have guys whose entire role is to stand in the corner to catch and shoot.
Opposed to 4 guys watching one guy in isolation? I mean I get the whole today’s era sucks thing a lot of people have, but let’s not ignore obvious things to prop that argument up. Movement is most definitely at an all time high across the league.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 8:50 am to rocket31
The fact that teams are seriously considering using a draft pick to get Bronny James just to court Lebron tells me all I need to know about “today’s NBA”.
Posted on 3/10/24 at 9:00 am to Dadren
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The fact that teams are seriously considering using a draft pick to get Bronny James just to court Lebron tells me all I need to know about “today’s NBA”
Are you saying that 90s NBA wouldn’t do the same to get Jordan on their team?
Posted on 3/10/24 at 9:09 am to VermilionTiger
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Are you saying that 90s NBA wouldn’t do the same to get Jordan on their team?
90s Jordan <> 2024 Lebron.
If Wizards Jordan played in the 90s, then no, I don’t think any of those teams would do that.
EDIT: Plus, I don’t even think this is something Jordan would want. The dude was all about winning and wouldn’t want to play with a freshman 6th man from a mediocre college team even if it was his son.
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 9:12 am
Posted on 3/10/24 at 9:20 am to Smoke7024
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Opposed to 4 guys watching one guy in isolation
Ok, let’s just pretend that there is no iso in the modern game All these guys putting up 70 spots are a result of excellent team play and movement. Guys dribbling just past half court and launching logo threes are a beautiful kaleidoscope of team play. Cool.
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