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re: WBC is an unserious exhibition in its current state.

Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:20 am to
Posted by 03 West CoChamps
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:20 am to
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3. It needs to be moved to late fall or mid winter and adopt a longer, more serious tournament format.



This will never happen. Too much money tied up in contracts on arms that don't want that many innings in the dead of off season. The only reason it works in March is pitchers are using this as Spring Training and building up to the start of the season. Front Offices hate it I bet.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:36 am to
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Just more evidence that hockey is the purest sport left standing.

That’s just it. To most pro athletes and coaches, what they do is no longer a sport. It’s their livelihood.

Even most athletes who take international competition more seriously do so because it’s the pinnacle of their sport, not necessarily because of greater patriotism or a greater love for the sport. A tennis player would rather win Wimbledon than Olympic gold because Wimbledon is more prestigious and profitable. A swimmer would rather win Olympic gold than any other meet - but only because no one gives a flying frick about any other swim meets.

NHL guys may be more hardcore, but it’s also true that the Stanley Cup is way behind the Super Bowl, NBA Finals, and World Series in terms of prestige and viewership. They get less glory and money from their “day job” than most other American professional athletes.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:41 am to
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2. Every country (USA) needs to be 100% invested in competing.


To act like they weren’t invested is lunacy and disingenuous. The US didn’t lose cause they weren’t talented enough lol
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:42 am to
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A tennis player would rather win Wimbledon than Olympic gold because Wimbledon is more prestigious and profitable.




By far the nose emotional this man has ever been
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:43 am to
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To act like they weren’t invested is lunacy and disingenuous
Skubal didn’t pitch and miller was held

To act like they were fully invested is lunacy I understand why but you are whacko to argue otherwise
Posted by SoDakHawk
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:46 am to
NHL guys grew up competing for their countries once they hit 16 years old, playing in various world championships and other tournaments at different age levels. Playing for your country is ingrained in the sport. That said, winning the Stanley Cup is the holy grail of hockey.

Olympic Gold or Stanley Cup, it's like asking which of your kids you love the most to a hockey player.
Posted by SoDakHawk
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:48 am to
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the Stanley Cup is way behind the Super Bowl, NBA Finals, and World Series


Stanley Cup is the most prestigious trophy in sports.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:53 am to
Miller would have pitched had the US taken the lead, but I wouldn’t expect a casual to understand that

Had they taken the lead and had to bring in Taylor Rodgers, you’d be crying that they used miller prematurely
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:57 am to
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Miller would have pitched had the US taken the lead, but I wouldn’t expect a casual to understand that
1. Nice to completely skip Skubal

2. You have a manager being told by the mlb teams what he can and can’t do. They aren’t all in, period.
Posted by Rubberbandman21
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 9:06 am to
I felt like the energy and competitiveness were amazing. It seemed like the US really cared about winning. But baseball just isn’t built for a single elimination tournament format. That’s why the worst team in the league beats the best team at times. Bats go cold for a day, or even a week. I think you enjoy the games for what they are, exciting and fun. But don’t expect the tournament to name the country that’s best at baseball. Sample size is too small. In a 7 game series I think team USA wins 4-2.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 9:06 am to
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All of these players grew up playing baseball year round in some form or fashion.


When they were kids they did. Now they are getting paid millions and have families and other shite they want to do before rolling into spring training and another 162 schedule.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 9:07 am to
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Nice to completely skip Skubal


Cause he was involved with the team earlier in the tournament

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You have a manager being told by the mlb teams what he can and can’t do. They aren’t all in, period.


using the closer in the closer role is not a wild ask. Meanwhile you have one of the best Venezuelan players ever watching from the stands.


There are like 1k MLB players, there is never going to be 100% participation by everyone. But you are a casual if you cannot appreciate the star power this tournament drew. You are salty cause the US lost but at the end of the day this was not marred by lack of participation. That is a petty & emotional contention.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 9:08 am to
I enjoyed the hell out of the tournament. But I don’t have to lie and say the US or anyone really is all in on winning. They aren’t. They are all handcuffed by their clubs

And it’s not rocket science why it’s exciting. Every game is a game 7. MLB is fricking awesome for a game 7 as well. There is nothing “special” about why the WBC is exciting
This post was edited on 3/18/26 at 9:10 am
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 9:10 am to
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By far the nose emotional this man has ever been

Because that was him completing the career golden slam. He wasn’t overcome with patriotism winning a gold medal. He achieved the last bookend to his career. If he had to choose just one to win it ain’t gonna be a gold medal and you know that
This post was edited on 3/18/26 at 9:12 am
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 9:11 am to
Clubs dictated pitch limit rules and usage (or held pitchers back entirely) for every country, not just the US. It impacts the US team more because their advantage lies on the pitching side, not the position player side. The DR in particular was missing a few very high profile starters
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 9:11 am to
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Because that was him completing the career golden slam
A small small small piece

Being born during war with no money in Yugoslavia and then getting to actually compete for his mother Serbia far more so
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 9:12 am to
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It could be so much better.

1. MLB needs to remove its influence (I know they created the thing, but they’re harming the product with restrictions)

2. Every country (USA) needs to be 100% invested in competing.

3. It needs to be moved to late fall or mid winter and adopt a longer, more serious tournament format.

Just frustrating thinking about the roster we could’ve had if American players cared more and MLB had no say.

I mean not being allowed to bring in the best closer in the world in a tie game, top of the 9th, winner take all. Lunacy.


Lunacy...

...expecting that MLB wouldn't care if their players went all out right before the season starts
...expecting that fans would rather see a killer, legit WBC than see their own team's players healthy going into the baseball season.
...expecting that players would want to play after the season ends when they get much needed time off to spend with their families, rest, and recover from injury.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73324 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 9:12 am to
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A small small small piece Being born during war with no money in Yugoslavia and then getting to actually compete for his mother Serbia far more so

ok
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111332 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 9:14 am to
Just do DR, US, Japan, and Venezuela and do it during the all star break just like four nations

No fake teams, no shite teams, and players are already ramped up so leash is slightly longer

I think that’s the most realistic option to improve it
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111332 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 9:15 am to
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He wasn’t overcome with patriotism winning a gold medal.
You clearly don’t know shite about Djokovic
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