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Want to learn a new obscure NFL rule you'll never see happen again?

Posted on 9/13/26 at 1:05 pm
Posted by JoeyBiscuits
Member since Dec 2025
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 1:05 pm
Watch the Saints games weekly.

Apparently if the QB's intent is to throw a forward pass, a ball thrown backwards is not a fumble.
Posted by Godzilla jr
Member since Sep 2025
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 1:08 pm to
That was mind numbing bad
Posted by BamaSaint
Moh-beel
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 1:09 pm to
Apparently if don't intend to fumble, it's not a fumble. fricking bullshite
Posted by blackandgolddude
Virginia Beach
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 1:09 pm to
If it wasn't a fumble (it was) then it was intentional grounding.

frick this
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 1:09 pm to
In a league of dumb arse rules they might have topped themselves. The game is decided by where the ball goes. What the frick is intent.
Posted by JoeyBiscuits
Member since Dec 2025
555 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 1:12 pm to
The amount of obscure NFL rules I've seen only ever called in Saints games is insane.

Incompletions are now completions in my opinion. Receiver's intent was to catch the ball.

The NFL is a joke.
Posted by spaghettioeauxs
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 1:12 pm to
I don’t know how you can interpret that review as anything other than blatant rigging of an outcome.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
482375 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 1:13 pm to
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If it wasn't a fumble (it was) then it was intentional grounding.

Y'all are ignoring how a defensive hit causes the errant pass

When that happens, you don't get grounding, either

Now, I don't think this was a forward pass, but that's another discussion
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 1:15 pm to
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The amount of obscure NFL rules I've seen only ever called in Saints games is insane.

Incompletions are now completions in my opinion. Receiver's intent was to catch the ball.

The NFL is a joke.


LSU too.

The jumping on an extra point rule was invoked once, ever, and it gave the warchickens a do over on a missed extra point.
Posted by csorre1
Member since Apr 2010
7364 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 1:15 pm to
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Y'all are ignoring how a defensive hit causes the errant pass


Maybe but they said just the qb raising his arms made it a pass. Another nuance to their new rule. So if he starts to raise his arms while being hit, no matter where the ball goes or what happens, it's an incomplete pass.
This post was edited on 9/13/26 at 1:16 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 1:16 pm to
NFL is beyond bad
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
482375 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 1:16 pm to
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Maybe but they said just the qb raising his arms made it a pass


That's to make the fumble an incomplete pass, which I don't agree with

This is about it being a later (or intentional grounding). The hit by the defender caused that, which is where the "intent" language comes in.

Posted by spaghettioeauxs
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2017
3250 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 1:17 pm to
Pretty clear fumble by the Lions there. I’m sure the refs will find a way to say he was still in possession.
Posted by JoeyBiscuits
Member since Dec 2025
555 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 1:17 pm to
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I don’t know how you can interpret that review as anything other than blatant rigging of an outcome.


It's technically a rule that if the arm is coming forward, but the defensive hit alters the throw to go backwards, that's it's an incomplete pass.

So the call was correct per the ruling. The rule needs to be eliminated.

By that measure, a defensive players altering of the ball/play doesn't dictate a fumble, then interceptions shouldn't exist. It wasn't the intent of the QB to throw to the other team, so the opposing team's altering of the ball shouldn't count as a turnover.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
17153 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 1:19 pm to
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Maybe but they said just the qb raising his arms made it a pass.
the rule is, if a passer begins a forward throwing motion and a defender materially contacts his arm. It's a forward pass even if the ball goes backwards. I think it's stupid, but that is the rule
Posted by JoeyBiscuits
Member since Dec 2025
555 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 1:19 pm to
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LSU too.

The jumping on an extra point rule was invoked once, ever, and it gave the warchickens a do over on a missed extra point.


Disconcerting signals was another one last year (or year before).
Posted by High C
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 1:20 pm to
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Y'all are ignoring how a defensive hit causes the errant pass


quote:

Now, I don't think this was a forward pass, but that's another discussion


Looks like you’re contradicting yourself there.
Posted by JoeyBiscuits
Member since Dec 2025
555 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 1:20 pm to
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I think it's stupid, but that is the rule


It's the verbiage they use that confuses me. It was the QB's intent to throw a forward pass. You can literally just make up whatever you want if the officials are going to start involving intent in every call.
This post was edited on 9/13/26 at 1:21 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
482375 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 1:22 pm to
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Looks like you’re contradicting yourself there.

Not if you paid attention.

I think it was a fumble, which makes the discussion about a backwards pass irrelevant. The NFL disagrees on that part.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
15423 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 1:24 pm to
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The NFL is a joke.
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