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re: VIDEO: Tony Stewart hits opposing driver; driver has died according to reports
Posted on 8/10/14 at 12:27 pm to OneMoreTime
Posted on 8/10/14 at 12:27 pm to OneMoreTime
I've already said, multiple times, that I'm not a fan of Stewart's and I think he's a hot headed narcissistic a-hole?
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 12:27 pm to boom roasted
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You're willing to convict based on that video alone?
You guys are proclaiming him innocent and saying it was a mistake on that video.
Talk about double standard.
In that video, I see other drivers see the kid and dodge. Then I see Tony (with the hot head history Tony has), car move up and increase in speed.
Why was he accelerating? Especially during what they said was a yellow? Why did he aim upward randomly?
Enough of the bullshite about how hard it is to handle the cars and the dirt. I'm not buying the shite because others seemed to handle it well enough to avoid killing another human being.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 12:27 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:I don't think he saw him until it was too late.
Tell me what you think then...did he see him or not?
Posted on 8/10/14 at 12:28 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Lol I can believe it.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 12:28 pm to YStar
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You guys are proclaiming him innocent and saying it was a mistake on that video.
Huh? All I'm doing is saying there's nothing on the video to make anyone think it's a purposeful act. I'm not a mind reader, I don't know intent. I didn't see anything that shows he tried to hit the guy.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 12:29 pm to YStar
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You guys are proclaiming him innocent and saying it was a mistake on that video.
Talk about double standard.
Seeing as he wasn't charged with a crime, the burden of proof is on the accuser.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 12:29 pm to YStar
quote:#1 Way to avoid the question
You guys are proclaiming him innocent and saying it was a mistake on that video.
Talk about double standard.
#2 You're damn right there is a double standard. It's called innocent until proven guilty.
My yes or no question still stands: would you convict based on that video alone?
Posted on 8/10/14 at 12:30 pm to boom roasted
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It's called innocent until proven guilty.
Right. Which is why I made my jury statement to the guy.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 12:30 pm to YStar
quote:Have you watched a different video than I?
In that video, I see other drivers see the kid and dodge. Then I see Tony (with the hot head history Tony has), car move up and increase in speed.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 12:30 pm to YStar
quote:
I see other drivers see the kid and dodge.
quote:2 other drivers nearly hit him. Neither one did anything to get out of the way. Tony's car only went to the right after his wheel made contact. You can see it in a frame by frame.
Then I see Tony (with the hot head history Tony has), car move up and increase in speed.
I do think (and I've said this from the beginning) that he was going too fast.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 12:31 pm to ell_13
Agreed. I think it was an accident, but I do think TS was intending to pass close, and I do believe it is his engine you hear rev
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 8/10/14 at 12:32 pm to YStar
quote:
You guys are proclaiming him innocent and saying it was a mistake on that video.
Most of us are saying it's impossible to deduce motive from that video and that the poor conditions make the likelihood of this being an unfortunate accident very high. That is not a double standard.
quote:
I see Tony (with the hot head history Tony has), car move up and increase in speed.
Why was he accelerating?
You have no proof that he was or did from that video.
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during what they said was a yellow?
Wrong.
quote:
Why did he aim upward randomly?
Did you just flat miss Ward hopping back and forth?
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Enough of the bullshite about how hard it is to handle the cars and the dirt. I'm not buying the shite because others seemed to handle it well enough to avoid killing another human being.
Others nearly did, for crying out loud. Only thing that might have saved another driver from being in TS shoes is Ward wasn't actively trying to get in their windshield.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 12:33 pm to ell_13
Did we ever find out if Tony had an onboard camera?
Also, I see that he has withdrawn from the race today. Too late, but at least he's not racing today.
Also, I see that he has withdrawn from the race today. Too late, but at least he's not racing today.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 12:34 pm to kywildcatfanone
quote:I keep hearing this mentioned but I haven't seen a source for the rumor that such a video exists. Same with radio. Okay, it's there, but I doubt it's recorded.
Did we ever find out if Tony had an onboard camera?
Posted on 8/10/14 at 12:35 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Ward Jr. appeared to attempt jumping/avoiding Stewart's car at the last second, back UP the track. You can then hear Stewart(I assume) gas it. Tony's car moves higher UP the track. That's what I saw and heard.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 12:35 pm to TbirdSpur2010
After watching the video I will still stick to what I said earlier. Don't see how they can prove he did it on purpose. It is still a terrible situation.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 12:36 pm to TbirdSpur2010
The only facts we have right now are that Ward made a HUGE error in judgement, ignored safety protocol and is dead because of the actions he made.
I feel for his family and no one deserves to have their lives taken away, but still he never should have walked into the path of oncoming vehicles.
I feel for his family and no one deserves to have their lives taken away, but still he never should have walked into the path of oncoming vehicles.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 12:36 pm to au21tigers
Agree.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 12:37 pm to ATLsuTiger
quote:
Tony's car moves higher UP the track. That's what I saw and heard.
Not seeing this until after impact.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 12:37 pm to boom roasted
I think he saw him and let his hot temper get the best of him. By that I am in no way saying he tried to hit or kill the guy...just rev the engine and throw dirt on him.
We are both going off a bad video that doesn't show good angles.
I don't know what kind of law you practice but if his family hired you for a a wrongful death suit I bet you would have a much stronger case that TS was negligent than you are willing to admit in this thread
We are both going off a bad video that doesn't show good angles.
I don't know what kind of law you practice but if his family hired you for a a wrongful death suit I bet you would have a much stronger case that TS was negligent than you are willing to admit in this thread
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