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re: Utah, Big 12 champ or Bama for final 4th spot?

Posted on 11/24/19 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 12:03 pm to
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Is Alabama the only team to make the BCS NC or the playoff that didn’t do it wire to wire?


Who said wire to wire?
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36709 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 12:04 pm to
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But you really don’t know 100% that a 1 loss OU or Baylor team will make it in over a 1 loss Bama team

i don't know about baylor, i responded specifically to oklahoma. i feel good about baylor as well, but not nearly as much as oklahoma.

i will guarantee and bet anything on the planet that 11-1 alabama does not get in over 12-1 oklahoma.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24296 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 12:05 pm to
I’m just saying the committee doesn’t seem to respect OU very much right. And that TCU game isn’t game going to help matters.
Posted by Louie T
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2006
36582 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 12:06 pm to
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That said, have you watched any of these other near elite teams they are talking about?

Utah has been playing with fire for weeks against mediocre (and I use that term generously) teams. They lack any sort of team speed and would get shredded by Bama even post Tua. They are west coast Wisconsin.
It's almost as if you haven't watched any of these other near elite teams they are talking about.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88406 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 12:07 pm to
Just seems like the only way to make the BCS NC or playoff without y’all freaking out about it.

LSU had 2 losses and made a 2 team playoff and throws shade at Alabama for back dooring playoff appearances.

I’m not even sure what backdooring a playoff spot even means or why it’s derogatory.
This post was edited on 11/24/19 at 12:08 pm
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59872 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 12:10 pm to
It is the little brother / conspiracy theory / catastrophe BS that is so prevalent. Sad.
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36709 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 12:11 pm to
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I’m just saying the committee doesn’t seem to respect OU very much right. And that TCU game isn’t game going to help matters.



it doesn't matter. they will be 7th this week in the playoff rankings by default and they would pick up 2 really solid wins in the next 2 weeks. they are 100% jumping alabama. the conversation would be between them and utah if it were to shake out that way and they should win that debate, too.

georgia beating lsu would be the worst thing for oklahoma's chances. they will also be cheering for oregon in the pac 12 title, but might not need it.
This post was edited on 11/24/19 at 12:13 pm
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
32797 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 12:19 pm to
Best chances in this order

OU
Utah
Bama

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 12:21 pm to
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Just seems like the only way to make the BCS NC or playoff without y’all freaking out about it.


Winning a conference championship is better than not winning a conference championship when comparing similar resumes, or so we're told.

quote:

LSU had 2 losses and made a 2 team playoff and throws shade at Alabama for back dooring playoff appearances.


Under the BcS, which was even more of a scam than the current system.

They also at least had a conference championship that season.

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I’m not even sure what backdooring a playoff spot even means or why it’s derogatory.


Obviously.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
38205 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 12:22 pm to
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Just seems like the only way to make the BCS NC or playoff without y’all freaking out about it.



What?

Most teams have to be the best of 7 to make the final 4 in the country

Your team has been the only exception

And it has happened twice

Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89358 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 12:24 pm to
I can assure you that if utah and/or the big 12 champ have less than 2 losses then bama has a 0% chance. Not sure why everyone seems to think they have some kind of magical free pass.
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36709 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 12:25 pm to
people are, by and large, extremely stupid and/or completely ignorant on the topic.

Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89358 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 12:30 pm to
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people are, by and large, extremely stupid and/or completely ignorant on the topic.


that's been made abundantly clear over the last month. Like to a shocking degree.
Posted by Eat Your Crow
caught beneath the landslide
Member since May 2017
9190 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 12:30 pm to
What if 2-loss Oregon wins the Pac 12, Alabama goes 11-1, and Baylor beats Oklahoma in the Big XII Championship Game?

Alabama or 1-loss Baylor?

Have to believe it would be Bama under that scenario...
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11816 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 12:32 pm to
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Backdoor U


A&M is not in contention
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16942 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 12:35 pm to
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Who is better at football, Bama or Utah?

I believe that is supposed to be the question. I believe I read that somewhere.

And we all know the answer isn't close.


This is such an asinine assertion because it is a completely subjective measure.

Perceived "better" teams lose to perceived "weaker" teams all of the time.

Bama was a 6 point favorite, and LSU beat them at Bama.

Penn St was a favorite against Minny, and Minny beat them at Penn St.

Do you believe Bama was the better team when they played Utah in the Sugar Bowl that one year?

The list goes on and on.

To deny a team that has a deserving resume a chance to be in the playoff simply because they are perceived as weaker is fricking ridiculous by every measure. No matter how much you try to remove it, there will always be a bias one way or the other amongst human voters. This gives perennial powers the clear advantage.

Let's just not play the games and go off of recruiting and preseason rankings if this is going to be the criteria.

This post was edited on 11/24/19 at 12:36 pm
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 12:38 pm to
A 12-1 OU would have 2 wins over Baylor. Their loss ain't that bad.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 12:43 pm to
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What if 2-loss Oregon wins the Pac 12, Alabama goes 11-1, and Baylor beats Oklahoma in the Big XII Championship Game?

Alabama or 1-loss Baylor?

Have to believe it would be Bama under that scenario...

Baylor.
I think Bama is screwed because you could've still used the eye test argument until Tua got hurt.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59872 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 12:45 pm to
So you want the computers to decide?
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16942 posts
Posted on 11/24/19 at 12:51 pm to
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So you want the computers to decide?


I'm not totally opposed to it.

But my point is more regarding the "eye test", and using it as any type of valid measure.
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