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Posted on 10/11/09 at 9:35 pm to
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/11/09 at 9:35 pm to
No Biesla will have them playing like qualifying depended on it. It won't be an easy match for Ecuador at all. Chile will go for the win.
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
43144 posts
Posted on 10/11/09 at 9:50 pm to
LINK

3:50 mark, look at this dude's shot. His leg looks like rubber. But yeah..Chile and U.S.. I can't wait for next year.
Posted by CrazyTigerFan
Member since Nov 2003
3625 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 9:11 am to
quote:

Does anyone understand how cards from qualification carry over into the World Cup?


I'm not sure of the exact rules for CONCACAF, but generally if a player accrues two yellow cards in any phase of a given tournament then they are suspended for one match. In this case, if two yellow cards are accumulated by one player during the Hexagonal (the final round of World Cup qualifying in CONCACAF), then they would be suspended for one match.

Yellow cards usually do not carry over from one phase of a tournament to the next (i.e.: group stages to knockout rounds), although it's up to the rules of the different tournaments to determine that. Yellow cards do not carry over from the different regions' World Cup qualifying tournaments to the World Cup itself.

I'm not sure about red card suspensions carrying over from one tournament to the next, though. We've got international friendlies between now and the World Cup, so if any player got a red card in the match against Costa Rica we could have them serve the suspension prior to the World Cup itself.
Posted by thenry712
Zasullia, Ukraine
Member since Nov 2008
15795 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 9:56 am to
From the USMNT Blog

quote:

Yesterday we had this discussion about the USA's magnificent job in avoiding what could have been costly yellow cards in the last three matches. The U.S. has a boatload of players who have picked up yellow cards - as does Costa Rica - from the previous 17 matches in qualifying. Following last Saturday's matches, those accumulated cards are now meaninglesss. Only a suspension following a sending off in the final match of qualifying would carry over to the 2010 FIFA World Cup. Everything else gets wiped out.


Posted by BraveTiger225
Atlanta, GA
Member since May 2008
17662 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:02 am to
The only thing that makes sense. The qualifying and finals are two separate entities. Carrying cards over would have made dick for sense.

I'm pumped for Uruguay - Argentina on Wednesday. Will be watching it somehow from somewhere, even if I'm at work. Game starts at 4 p.m. CDT if I'm doing time-zone calculations correctly. We are UTC-6, right?
Posted by Mephistopheles
Member since Aug 2007
8394 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:05 am to
quote:

The USA invades South Africa in 2010



LOL! Great choice of words.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38665 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:07 am to


Good for them.

I'm still not impressed with Bradley just yet. A good showing in the summer might change my mind.


We'll get Spain or Brazil in our group it seems, The US always gets hard seeding.
Posted by thenry712
Zasullia, Ukraine
Member since Nov 2008
15795 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 11:11 am to
The great thing is though that this tourney is in South Africa and non-European teams always perform better in non-Euro hosted World Cups. Another occurance in our favor is that their will be more teams with less Cup experience on their rosters compared to our squad (despite our relative average age).
Posted by EMILIO
The Best Bank
Member since Apr 2007
3655 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 11:22 am to
When will the groups be chosen? This year?
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38665 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 11:33 am to
quote:

The great thing is though that this tourney is in South Africa and non-European teams always perform better in non-Euro hosted World Cups.


Truth.

quote:

Another occurance in our favor is that their will be more teams with less Cup experience on their rosters compared to our squad (despite our relative average age).


I like the Danes so far too, they have looked good. Young but good. They won't win or anything, but it's not always about winning.

A lot of top teams look vulnerable too, I like the chances of someone other than Brazil/France/Italy/Germany winning.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
97016 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 11:50 am to
quote:

these athletes (yes they are athletes, youtube Jozy Altidore and Charlie Davies)


why did you feel this was necessary?
This post was edited on 10/12/09 at 11:51 am
Posted by thenry712
Zasullia, Ukraine
Member since Nov 2008
15795 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 12:39 pm to
There's always bound to be one soccer flamer who decides it necessary to say that all of our players are basketball/football rejects. This is not the case.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45219 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 12:44 pm to
He felt that was necessary because there is always that one idiot or two who likes to attack soccer and soccer players.

Those who open soccer threads only to attack soccer are the guys who are too insecure about themselves...
Posted by BraveTiger225
Atlanta, GA
Member since May 2008
17662 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

When will the groups be chosen? This year?


The draw for the 32-team field will take place in South Africa this December. Not sure of the exact date.
Posted by EastBankTiger
A little west of Hoover Dam
Member since Dec 2003
21634 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

I'm pumped for Uruguay - Argentina on Wednesday. Will be watching it somehow from somewhere, even if I'm at work. Game starts at 4 p.m. CDT if I'm doing time-zone calculations correctly. We are UTC-6, right?


Central Time is, yes. That's 2 PM here and fortunately, I'm off Wednesday. If I can't get it on the dish, I'm sure that I can find it someplace around town.

How bad do you think it'll get in Argentina if they miss out on WC 2010?
This post was edited on 10/12/09 at 1:08 pm
Posted by BraveTiger225
Atlanta, GA
Member since May 2008
17662 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 1:17 pm to
The players will get blamed, and the AFA. Not Maradona. Maradona is a national treasure, albeit a fat, stupid one. Blame will go on the players for not playing well and the idiots in charge who thought hiring Maradona was a good idea.

Newsflash: good players don't always make good coaches. See Maradona, van Basten, Sanchez, etc.
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55375 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 1:19 pm to
But if Arg loses and depending on Ecuador, won't they end up in a home and home with probably Honsuras. Can you imagine if is was Brazil Honsuras insteas with all the political inttrigue?
Posted by BraveTiger225
Atlanta, GA
Member since May 2008
17662 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 1:58 pm to
That last part...please tell me your keyboard got stuck or something.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
In hiding with Tupac & XXXTentacion
Member since Dec 2008
32893 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

The only thing that makes sense. The qualifying and finals are two separate entities. Carrying cards over would have made dick for sense.


I just wasn't sure because of the Arshavin suspension in Euro 2008, where he missed the first two games. I'm glad that it's just the red cards that carry over though.

ETA: I think that a suspension after 2 yellow cards is way too strict, too. It should be 3 yellow cards considering they are playing in 9 games where they could be affected.
This post was edited on 10/12/09 at 2:43 pm
Posted by thenry712
Zasullia, Ukraine
Member since Nov 2008
15795 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 6:29 pm to
That's why it was so incredible that something like seven of our regular starters were carrying yellows and none of them picked up their second.
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