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re: ULL podcaster has meltdown about Matt Moscona’s show being added to 103.7 radio station

Posted on 5/17/23 at 4:22 pm to
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
17471 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 4:22 pm to
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Louisiana State University–A&M College

Would you look at that


That's what it says on my degree so go right ahead. I promise not send to send a strongly worded email to your boss
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 4:23 pm to
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But, if you're just an LSU fan that doesn't make a living off of how LSU markets itself, you are a loser


I am an alumni that recognizes the importance of a separation between the two schools and the importance globally of LSU being linked to Louisiana as they always have been despite your moronic attempts to convince people otherwise.

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Yeah, UL calls itself Louisiana because it wants to be associated with LSU. Not because, I don't know, it's in the fricking state of Louisiana?


Continue to show us how fricking little you understand about branding and marketability. You people don’t look stupid enough already. Louisiana is LSU and LSU is Louisiana. ULL could disappear tomorrow and very few people would notice or care.
Posted by Cajunese
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
6983 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 4:23 pm to
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ETA: You're threatened by something that you have absolutely zero reason to be threatened by, that's pretty much the definition of insecurity.


It’s seriously amazing. The LSU brand is all big and bad but can apparently be shattered because some “directional school” changes its brand.

You can’t make this up. It’s why people from other states look our way and laugh at us as a whole.
Posted by Cajunese
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
6983 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 4:25 pm to
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That's what it says on my degree so go right ahead. I promise not send to send a strongly worded email to your boss


Oh so you can shorten your abbreviation but we have to have a 10+ thread on here and can’t shorten ours. Ok.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 4:25 pm to
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The LSU brand is all big and bad but can apparently be shattered because some “directional school” changes its brand.


The argument has never been shattered. Potentially damaged by the association, yes.
Posted by Cajuns1
Member since Oct 2021
11 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 4:26 pm to
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ULL simply cannot and never will be able to turn people away like Texas and UNC


You're absolutely right. With all of the backwards thinking in this state (on full display in this thread), including LSU spending 400k in 1984 to fight our name change, no public school in the state will ever be on par with Texas or UNC. So I guess we should just give up trying to better our institution altogether.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32946 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 4:26 pm to
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Louisiana is LSU and LSU is Louisiana.

You think that when people think of Louisiana, the first thing that they think of is LSU?

ETA: what you're saying is that essentially the only way that LSU can stay on top is by holding every other university in Louisiana down, you can't stand on your own merit, you have to attempt to discredit everyone else around you. Which is also, pretty much the definition of insecurity
This post was edited on 5/17/23 at 4:29 pm
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 4:26 pm to
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Oh so you can shorten your abbreviation but we have to have a 10+ thread on here and can’t shorten ours. Ok.


Legally, you can not.
Posted by Cajunese
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
6983 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 4:28 pm to
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Legally, you can not.



No one said legally, we can't go by Louisiana.

What's even worse is your small minded thinking of monopolizing success only towards LSU. That way of thinking is why we are dead last in everything.
Posted by Baers Foot
Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns
Member since Dec 2011
3551 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 4:29 pm to
Can we all just put the guns down and agree that TigerOnTheMountain is off the rails in this thread.

Like I'm worried about you buddy, I'll just refer to us as ULL if it calms you down.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 4:31 pm to
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You think that when people think of Louisiana, the first thing that they think of is LSU?


They sure as shite don’t think Lafayette
Posted by TigerAlumni2010
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
4375 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 4:32 pm to
These threads are always funny, I understand why UL-Lafayette wants to brand themselves as UL, but UL-Monroe could do the same thing. The schools are on completely equal footing in their rights to the name when it comes down to it.

It monitarily makes sense for ULL to represent themselves as UL, so they do it. If ULM wanted to challenge it, they could brand themselves as UL as well.


This post was edited on 5/17/23 at 4:33 pm
Posted by joeleblanc
Member since Jan 2012
4114 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 4:33 pm to
And yet in hindsight, Authement didn’t do the university any favors by agreeing to be The University of Louisiana-Lafayette.
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
17471 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 4:34 pm to
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Oh so you can shorten your abbreviation but we have to have a 10+ thread on here and can’t shorten ours. Ok.


I haven't read all 10 pages of this, I was just laughing at the screenshot of that dude in the OP throwing a hissy fit because that's just pathetic. Honestly I don't GAF what yall call themselves or if yall want to call us LSUA&M. But while we're on the subject I will say it's like the 3rd time in my lifetime yall have tried to change what yall are called. Pick one and stick with it already
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15968 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 4:34 pm to
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Statement was UC Berkeley is not the UC flagship and goes by Cal/California for it’s athletic brand. Nevada-Reno also goes by Nevada athletically.

This statement is stupid though because Cal was the original university of the UC system. They were officially known simply as the University of California until the 60s. Type University of California into google and see which campus it gives you.

Likewise, UNR was the University of Nevada as they were the only public university in the state, until UNLV was established as a satellite campus.

They don't just call themselves Cal and Nevada for athletic branding purposes. And they certainly didn't force people to call them that in the last 20 years.
Posted by Musashi
South Louisiana
Member since Dec 2020
378 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 4:36 pm to
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Continue to show us how fricking little you understand about branding and marketability. You people don’t look stupid enough already. Louisiana is LSU and LSU is Louisiana. ULL could disappear tomorrow and very few people would notice or care.


So you are telling me LSU is all that matters in this state. Meanwhile Louisiana is dead frickin’ last in most education and state metrics nationwide.

Hmmmmmmm, maybe something needs to change here. Just a thought but maybe that is the problem. So instead of taking on competition and striving to be better you fight with your lawyers and politicians to keep everything in one place and hold back funding from other institutions because it threatens Baton Rouge dominance. Stupid is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results in this state.

This quote from the LSU chancellor in 1985 pretty much sums up the simple mindedness I see in this state and why we fall further and further behind. Nothing has changed.

“LSU Chancellor Wharton says he fought the USL name change because it was threatening LSU’s dominion as the “flagship” university.

Giving it a new name alone would increase USL’s ability to compete for national attention in academics and funding and “we cannot take very much more competition,” Wharton said. “If it leads to further competition, I don’t think LSU can survive as the flagship university”.


Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
3631 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 4:41 pm to
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What's even worse is your small minded thinking of monopolizing success only towards LSU. That way of thinking is why we are dead last in everything.


I think this is the pot calling the kettle black if you believe LSU and it’s supporters are the reason the school in Lafayette isn’t some nationally respected university.

ULL/USL/SLI/SLII has been around a long time. A name change isn’t what is holding it back.
Posted by chew4219
Member since Sep 2009
2724 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 4:42 pm to
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This entire conversation is stupid, but I think the peak stupidity is trying to brag about academic prestige (as a regional university in fricking Louisiana, no less) and not being able to spell the classification name correctly


Ignorance is bliss isn’t it?

Louisiana Higher Ed is broken down as such:

Flagship:
LSU

Statewide:
LaTech
UNO
Louisiana

Regional Colleges:
Everyone else
Posted by Cajuns1
Member since Oct 2021
11 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 4:44 pm to
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So you are telling me LSU is all that matters in this state. Meanwhile Louisiana is dead frickin’ last in most education and state metrics nationwide.


Finally someone gets it. Trying to better ourselves and improve our brand has NOTHING to do with LSU, until they interfere with our efforts. It's been on full display here that everything always comes back to "THEY JUST WANT TO BE THE FLAGSHIP."

The whole point of the name change was to work to better ourselves and raise our prominence on a national level. There was never an intention to take anything away from other schools, but the backroom politics and irrational fear that we were doing it to destroy other schools is, as you said, the reason our state is in such terrible shape.

Just because we want to be a nationally respected university has NOTHING do to with LSU and everything to do about US.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
71074 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 4:53 pm to
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Louisiana Higher Ed is broken down as such:

Flagship:
LSU

Statewide:
LaTech
UNO
Louisiana

Regional Colleges:
Everyone else


Nah. ULL is a regional school trying to co-opt the branding of the villain school from an Adam Sandler movie.
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