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re: Tyrod Taylor had lung accidentally punctured by team doctor

Posted on 9/23/20 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 9/23/20 at 1:08 pm to
How the frick do you do something like that
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
46727 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 1:11 pm to
Injecting in that area and the needle is too far in
This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 1:12 pm
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
79569 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 1:13 pm to
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How the frick do you do something like that


Posted by shagnasty 2
Not far enough away
Member since Nov 2013
1204 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 1:30 pm to
I think that was a PICC line he had for antibiotics. It is inserted midway up the arm. Still, I wouldn't be comfortable playing football with it
Posted by benoit_BayouBengals
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
2819 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 1:51 pm to
Maybe he was a popstar, not a doctor.
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
18073 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 2:49 pm to
With the 1 downvote on all the posts, I didn't know Tyrod posts on here.
Posted by WaterLink
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Member since Sep 2015
20740 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 2:50 pm to
Chargers medical staff:

Posted by BearsFan
Member since Mar 2016
1286 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 3:02 pm to
A pneumothorax is a definite possible complication of a nerve block in the chest wall. Hopefully this was explained as he signed the preprocdure consent. For most people it probably means placement of a small chest tube and one nights stay in a hospital.
This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 3:04 pm
Posted by Tigermite
Member since Nov 2004
958 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 3:21 pm to
How the hell does one even play while on opiates or toradol? 20 mins after that injection and Im heading to the players lounge to find a couch and a can of copenhagen
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116169 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 3:34 pm to
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How the hell does one even play while on opiates or toradol? 20 mins after that injection and Im heading to the players lounge to find a couch and a can of copenhagen


Top it off with some medically induced adrenaline and you’re good to go


I enjoy how some of you are seeing for the first time how much shite these dudes do to get ready for an NFL game isn’t it amazing that they have kicked dudes out the league for rolling a joint on a Tuesday?
Posted by AlonsoWDC
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:37 pm to
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12453 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:52 pm to
quote:

quote:
George Atallah

@GeorgeAtallah

Our medical and legal team have been in touch with Tyrod and his agent since Sunday collecting facts. An investigation has been initiated.


This guy is the Assistant Executive Director of External Affairs at the NFLPA (from his twitter bio).

quote:
Ryan Harris

@salaams_from_68

Little known fact:

Per CBA when player accepts team medical care they can not sue...


ex player, on the broncos for Super Bowl 50

Can’t sue the team or league. Can sue the doctor.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116169 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 5:53 pm to
Team would be smart to pay out any performance bonuses he may or may not miss out on due to this injury
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
139433 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 6:42 pm to
quote:

The Saints medical staff circa 2015 would have accidentally removed his lung.
Posted by GCTigahs
Member since Oct 2014
2522 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 7:10 pm to
quote:

quote:
Ryan Harris

@salaams_from_68

Little known fact:

Per CBA when player accepts team medical care they can not sue...


After thinking about this for a second, that's probably beneficial to all parties. Most of these players only have a few short years to make more money than they could in the rest of their adult life. They are adults that are choosing to subject their bodies to the abuse. Plus they have the option for a second opinion away from the team doc. If I'm in that position, I'm doing whatever is legally available to get on the field.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12453 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 7:40 pm to
I still don't think you can waive the right to sue an individual doctor for medical malpractice, even under a collective bargaining system.

But I wonder if injuries suffered at the hands of a team doctor may be included in workers' comp awards under the CBA? If so might make sense they can't sue for it.
This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 7:45 pm
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12453 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 7:42 pm to
quote:

Plus they have the option for a second opinion away from the team doc.
They do, but it's highly frowned upon. Unless you're a star player going to a specialist for a particular injury, you can expect the front office to hold that against you.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12453 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 7:50 pm to
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A pneumothorax is a definite possible complication of a nerve block in the chest wall. Hopefully this was explained as he signed the preprocdure consent. For most people it probably means placement of a small chest tube and one nights stay in a hospital.
For medmal it's not a question of whether this is a possible complication. It's whether a reasonably prudent doctor would make this mistake. If it's a known possible complication, that arguably puts an even greater burden on the doctor to prevent it.
This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 7:53 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30482 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 9:21 pm to
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A bad outcome even one that is a known and disclosed for consent risk does not mean that bad outcome is not a result of malpractice.


I am curious how many cases of med-mal the downvoters have actually tried. I am willing to bet my number is significantly higher than their cumulative number.

Just because a certain outcome is a written consent risk does not mean that none of those particular outcomes involved negligence or a breach of duty.

As a wildly simplistic example, almost all surgeries will include bleeding and post-op infection as major risks. That does not mean a surgeon that cuts a well-defined artery in the surgical field didn't breach the standard or care. It also doesn't mean that a surgeon that drop an instrument and picks it up and uses it didn't commit malpractice when the patient ends up with a staph infection.

It is really simple a patient that suffers from a known risk does not mean there was not malpractice nor does it mean there is. What matters is the exact manner of care the individual got. Med-mal is fairly rare, even more rare from the actual hands of a doctor because most are very good at what they do.
Posted by BearsFan
Member since Mar 2016
1286 posts
Posted on 9/23/20 at 9:31 pm to
I don't speak legalese, but it isn't far fetched to get a pneumothorax from a nerve block in the chest wall even with a good physician performing it. It is something I would weigh the risks of before I would even agree to letting someone do that to me.
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