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re: Twins wanted Jose De Leon, Yadier Alvarez, & Willie Calhoun for Brian Dozier
Posted on 1/31/17 at 3:25 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
Posted on 1/31/17 at 3:25 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
Just fyi, in the past year the Dodgers have traded away Grant Holmes, Frankie Montas, and Jharel Cotton. All three were good arms.
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Posted on 1/31/17 at 3:31 pm to L.A.
and now de leon. people keep acting like we are hording our prospects and that just isnt true. we just arent going overboard because we dont need to because we have just as good a chance to win the world series as anyone else right now
This post was edited on 1/31/17 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 1/31/17 at 3:41 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:Exactly. I'm still upset that we traded away Carlos Santana to the Indians for Casey Blake. Burns me up every time I think about it.
and now de leon. people keep acting like we are hording our prospects and that just isnt true. we just arent going overboard because we dont need to because we have just as good a chance to win the world series as anyone else right now
Posted on 1/31/17 at 3:43 pm to L.A.
That's what I would have asked for as well. That said, I would have settled for De Leon, Calhoun, and Brock Stewart(or some lesser arm). I'm surprised they couldn't make something like that happen.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 3:44 pm to L.A.
that was damn near 10 years ago. holy shite time flies
Posted on 1/31/17 at 4:49 pm to WestCoastAg
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Justin Turner is a top 5 3rd baseman in all of baseball, yasmani grandal is a top 5 catcher in all of baseball, joc pederson is a top 10 center fielder in baseball
waitwut
Posted on 1/31/17 at 4:53 pm to GynoSandberg
quote:
yasmani grandal is a top 5 catcher in all of baseball
.225
.234
.228
impressive numbers
Posted on 1/31/17 at 4:56 pm to stlslick
Judging a catcher (any player really) on his BA is silly. He had a .340 OBP, .477 SLG, 122 wRC+ last year and he is one of the best defensive catchers in baseball.
I don't know if Turner is quite top 5 at 3B because 3B is loaded. But definitely I agree with Grandal is a top 5 catcher, and Peterson likely is top 10 in CF.
I don't know if Turner is quite top 5 at 3B because 3B is loaded. But definitely I agree with Grandal is a top 5 catcher, and Peterson likely is top 10 in CF.
This post was edited on 1/31/17 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 1/31/17 at 4:56 pm to stlslick
pitch framing , OBP , throwing runners out
Posted on 1/31/17 at 4:59 pm to GynoSandberg
Turner was 5th in WAR, Yaz was 5th, and joc was 7th 
And thats also with Yaz missing time. He's not quite posey or Lucroy but after that he looks pretty good
And thats also with Yaz missing time. He's not quite posey or Lucroy but after that he looks pretty good
This post was edited on 1/31/17 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 1/31/17 at 5:06 pm to The Seaward
Grandal rode an unprecedented pre ASB hot streak at the plate. He was putrid 2H of 2016 offensively. He's good defensively, but a good 1H offensively doesnt put him in top 5 category for me as a catcher. And I dont even think he's bad offensively, but he needs to prove that wasnt a career year.
As for Turner, idc what one year of WAR says, you arent going to convince me he's better than Machado, Donaldson, Bryant, Arenado, Beltre. Seager has been doing for a few years... Again, he needs to prove that wasn't a career year and that's actually who he is.
Pederson, maybe , just bc CF is shallow. One could argue 10 guys over him, too, though.
As for Turner, idc what one year of WAR says, you arent going to convince me he's better than Machado, Donaldson, Bryant, Arenado, Beltre. Seager has been doing for a few years... Again, he needs to prove that wasn't a career year and that's actually who he is.
Pederson, maybe , just bc CF is shallow. One could argue 10 guys over him, too, though.
This post was edited on 1/31/17 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 1/31/17 at 5:18 pm to GynoSandberg
quote:that's backwards. He started off in a big slump because he had shoulder surgery in the offseason. Once he was getting back into the rhythm of everything, he took off
Grandal rode an unprecedented pre ASB hot streak at the plate. He was putrid 2H of 2016 offensively
quote:he's pretty much done that. Ever since he's been with the Dodgers, he's been one of the most valuable 3rd baseman in baseman. Last year was just the first year he became the undisputed everyday player and he put up numbers right there with them
As for Turner, idc what one year of WAR says, you arent going to convince me he's better than Machado, Donaldson, Bryant, Arenado, Beltre. Again, he needs to prove that wasn't a career year and that's actually who he is.
quote:trout, Eaton, JB jr, fowler, blackmon, herrera, and then? Maybe cespedes but he's a black whole on defense and maybe inciarte
Pederson, maybe , just bc CF is shallow. One could argue 10 guys over him, too, though.
This post was edited on 1/31/17 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 1/31/17 at 5:25 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:
that's backwards. He started off in a big slump because he had shoulder surgery in the offseason. Once he was getting back into the rhythm of everything, he took off
You're right.
I think he's above league average, but I dont think he's a 25 HR bat.
quote:
he's pretty much done that. Ever since he's been with the Dodgers, he's been one of the most valuable 3rd baseman in baseman. Last year was just the first year he became the undisputed everyday player and he put up numbers right there with them
Yep, Im familiar with him. Last season was the first season over 500 plate appearances. Again, is he a 25 HR bat?
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trout, Eaton, JB jr, fowler, blackmon, herrera, and then? Maybe cespedes but he's a black whole on defense and maybe inciarte
Adam Jones, Cutch, Marcell Ozuna, Leonys Martin is up and coming... it can be debated, you just said it so matter of factly
Posted on 1/31/17 at 5:30 pm to WestCoastAg
I would take Inciarte and Cespedes over Peterson as well. Springer should be playing CF this year everyday. Also some prime bounceback candidates with guys like Cain, Adam Jones, Pollock and McCutchen if they can get healthy/rebound that have been better than Pederson in the past
Justin Turner is not on the level of Bryant Donaldson Machado and Arenado
Justin Turner is not on the level of Bryant Donaldson Machado and Arenado
This post was edited on 1/31/17 at 5:37 pm
Posted on 1/31/17 at 5:35 pm to GynoSandberg
Grandal has the second highest career wRC+ among active catchers. Durability has been a concern, but he can hit and defend.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 5:42 pm to GynoSandberg
quote:he was on his way in 2015 until the shoulder injury that he had surgery on in the offseason derailed him and made him fall into a massive slump. I think he could be that kind of bat but we'll see
I think he's above league average, but I dont think he's a 25 HR bat
quote:his hr/fb ratio was pretty much what it was last year, it was higher by one percent. I personally think he tried to hit more homers than usual last year and would like it if he was more of the 20 homer player who hits hard line drives
Again, is he a 25 HR bat?
quote:only because a common train of thought was said on here. Our rotation is absolutely kershaw, hill, and then pray that we can get quality innings from 6 other guys. But that's not how the rest of the roster is made up. There absolutely is top end talent on the roster across multiple positions after Seager and kershaw
you just said it so matter of factly
This post was edited on 1/31/17 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 1/31/17 at 5:43 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
quote:I don't think he is either. I would definitely put those 4 ahead of him
Justin Turner is not on the level of Bryant Donaldson Machado and Arenado
Posted on 1/31/17 at 5:54 pm to L.A.
Dodgers should have made their move to secure a WAS, instead they've settled on finishing in the NLCS
Posted on 1/31/17 at 5:59 pm to The Seaward
quote:
Grandal has the second highest career wRC+ among active catchers.
lil cherry pickin and spinnin there, but i agree he can hit and defend.
Posted on 1/31/17 at 8:58 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
quote:
Justin Turner is not on the level of Bryant Donaldson Machado and Arenado
I'd put those four, Adrian Beltre (At least last season) and Kyle Seager in front of him. And that's just off of the top of my head.
He is certainly above average though, I will admit that.
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