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Track "Elimination" Mile in Austrailia
Posted on 2/8/17 at 11:38 am
Posted on 2/8/17 at 11:38 am
Never seen this done before but its a really cool concept, each lap the last guy gets left off until theres only 1 left. Makes for a very exciting race, much better than that garbage you see in most major track meets where everyone is scared to run fast until the last 400.
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 11:47 am to BigOrangeWave
That was pretty cool. Surging clearly not the way to go.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 11:53 am to BigOrangeWave
This is a classic elimination race format for track cycling. It's called the 'Miss and Out' or 'Devil Takes the Hindmost.'
Posted on 2/8/17 at 11:53 am to BigOrangeWave
This is a take on a track cycling race. should be exciting
Posted on 2/8/17 at 11:54 am to BigOrangeWave
I imagine photo finishes for last could cause an issue.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 12:50 pm to BigOrangeWave
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Makes for a very exciting race, much better than that garbage you see in most major track meets where everyone is scared to run fast until the last 400.
Except you're seeing slower times than a usual race because sprinting all out from the start is a shite way to run a mile.
Exciting for the grueling aspect, sure.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 12:53 pm to BigOrangeWave
quote:Wait, guys in 1 mile relays don't try to run the mile as fast as they can?
much better than that garbage you see in most major track meets where everyone is scared to run fast until the last 400.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 2:30 pm to shel311
In the Olympics last year, the guys started out so slow in the 1500. The first 800 was slower than the Olympics times from the 60s.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 2:31 pm to Keys Open Doors
quote:I don't understand, why not just run it the way you practice for 4 years, which is the quickest you possibly can?
In the Olympics last year, the guys started out so slow in the 1500. The first 800 was slower than the Olympics times from the 60s.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 2:34 pm to shel311
quote:That isnt how distance running goes really. Runners run against the "race," not neccessarily for a PR
I don't understand, why not just run it the way you practice for 4 years, which is the quickest you possibly can?
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 2/8/17 at 2:39 pm to BigOrangeWave
Kind of a weird race. Every time around guys sprint the last 100 meters then immediately slow back down.
The guy who finished 3rd didn't even try the last lap
The guy who finished 3rd didn't even try the last lap
Posted on 2/8/17 at 2:41 pm to lsupride87
quote:Well, that's just dumb.
That isnt how distance running goes really. Runners run against the "race," not neccessarily for a PR
How do they train for 4 years? I'd imagine the vast majority of that training is not running in competition with others.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 2:47 pm to shel311
I'm sure they do compete in a competition often. One thing that throws off just running your fastest time is the fact that like 10 guys are sharing 1 lane in these long distance runs. So, you have people jockeying for position that throws off a plan.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 2:49 pm to shel311
There are many different types of runners. Some go out so hard/fast they hope to tire the competition, whereas others want a slow pace because they can kick at the end.
I agree watching the Olympics or other big races is dull because it's a "tactical" race vs balls to the wall. But, they figure out the best way to win and go with it.
I agree watching the Olympics or other big races is dull because it's a "tactical" race vs balls to the wall. But, they figure out the best way to win and go with it.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 2:52 pm to shel311
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I don't understand, why not just run it the way you practice for 4 years, which is the quickest you possibly can?
It's a collective action problem and the reason super big kickers like Mo Farah are so good in championship events even when he doesn't have top PRs.
Nobody wants to be the one to do the work early and just get outkicked at the end. That's why championship races, which don't have pace setters tend to be very slow for the first 1200 and finish with a huge kick. 5k and 10K are similar.
In non-championship races with pacers, the pace is a lot faster because you have someone pushing the pace early on.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 2:56 pm to shel311
[img]Well, that's just dumb.
How do they train for 4 years? I'd imagine the vast majority of that training is not running in competition with others.[/img]
Ignorant statement is ignorant.
How do they train for 4 years? I'd imagine the vast majority of that training is not running in competition with others.[/img]
Ignorant statement is ignorant.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:00 pm to ragincajun03
quote:Careful out on that limb, big fella!!!
Ignorant statement is ignorant.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:51 pm to shel311
Shel, put down the shovel. The hole you are digging is massive.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:54 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
quote:Wait, you also haven't noticed that besides 3 words, literally everything I've done in this thread is ask questions?
Shel, put down the shovel. The hole you are digging is massive.
You guys are acting like I'm coming in like some sort of mile relay expert when it's rather clear it's the complete opposite, and I don't know shite about this.
Feels like we're trying a little too hard for the "gotcha" moment if you couldn't pick up on the fact that I don't know the 1st thing about a mile relay.
Digging a hole...that's funny.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 2/8/17 at 4:02 pm to shel311
I am not talking about a mile relay (the 4x400 where each person runs one lap). At 400 meters or less, everyone always runs all out.
The below information is about distance and middle distance running regarding "Championship" and qualifying races.
Almost no one goes for the fastest time because you compete for place, not time. Your goal needs to be to get first, second, etc. or whatever helps you accomplish your goal or qualification standard.
If you run alone, then you are wasting excess energy. It conserves your strength and speed to draft behind others and run in a pack. At the highest level, there is almost no one (except for David Rudisha in the 800) who can lead from wire to wire.
When Centrowitz won the Olympic 1500 meters in Rio, he ran a slower time than my DIII college teammate.
Olympic finals are often painfully slow because you go for the gold, not a PR. If you try to take out the race on your own, then you will get toasted 99 times out of 100.
The below information is about distance and middle distance running regarding "Championship" and qualifying races.
Almost no one goes for the fastest time because you compete for place, not time. Your goal needs to be to get first, second, etc. or whatever helps you accomplish your goal or qualification standard.
If you run alone, then you are wasting excess energy. It conserves your strength and speed to draft behind others and run in a pack. At the highest level, there is almost no one (except for David Rudisha in the 800) who can lead from wire to wire.
When Centrowitz won the Olympic 1500 meters in Rio, he ran a slower time than my DIII college teammate.
Olympic finals are often painfully slow because you go for the gold, not a PR. If you try to take out the race on your own, then you will get toasted 99 times out of 100.
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