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Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:31 pm to wildtigercat93
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:31 pm to wildtigercat93
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Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:33 pm to DelU249
This board will be raided by ST if that extremely unlikely upset happens
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:38 pm to cas4t
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Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:39 pm to MusclesofBrussels
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More yards doesn't mean better stats
well touchdowns are a pretty terrible litmus for determining a Qb's worth too then.
Run the ball 9 times down the field and the qb gets credit for the td if he makes a 2 yard pass to the endzone.
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:42 pm to Bass Tiger
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Brees has a decent D, no comparison on how much pressure is on Mahomes. I could be wrong but I don’t think the Chiefs D has made one game winning stop this season ..., that ain’t on Mahomes
You’re literally arguing against brees with your evidence being 90% of his career.
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:45 pm to TH03
quote:Yep.
You’re literally arguing against brees with your evidence being 90% of his career.
Everyone is reversing their stances.
Every other year - “Brees shouldn’t win it because his D was so bad that he had to throw all the time, inflating his numbers.”
2018 - “Mahomes should win it because his D is so bad that he has to throw the ball all the time, resulting in awesome numbers.”
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:46 pm to Starchild
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f it were all about stats, Brees would have won in 2009, 2011 especially, 2012, 2013..
In 2013 Peyton Manning had 300 more yards, 16 more TDs 2 fewer ints and only 9 more attempts so do tell how “if it’s just about stats” Brees would have won that one.
2011 Rodgers had an all time season, Brees had 800 more yards 1 more TD and 8 more ints but 150 more attempts.
2012 the Saints were 7-9, that’s not comparable to KC who will at worst be 11-5.
2009 Brees should have won
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:46 pm to Bass Tiger
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Brees has a decent D, no comparison on how much pressure is on Mahomes. I could be wrong but I don’t think the Chiefs D has made one game winning stop this season ..., that ain’t on Mahomes
You’re stuck trying to make the argument Saints fans have been trying to make for Brees for 90% of his career with the Saints.
If Brees had halfway decent defenses in New Orleans, he’d had 3 MVPs and 2 more Super Bowl rings.
Not fun huh?
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:47 pm to Scruffy
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Every other year - “Brees shouldn’t win it because his D was so bad that he had to throw all the time, inflating his numbers.”
2018 - “Mahomes should win it because his D is so bad that he has to throw the ball all the time, resulting in awesome numbers.”
Exactly.
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:48 pm to H-Town Tiger
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In 2013 Peyton Manning had 300 more yards, 16 more TDs 2 fewer ints and only 9 more attempts so do tell how “if it’s just about stats” Brees would have won that one.
He also broke the TD record. He was far and way the deserving MVP that season.
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2011 Rodgers had an all time season, Brees had 800 more yards 1 more TD and 8 more ints but 150 more attempts.
Rodgers set the QB rating record that season. He was better than Brees and deserved the award.
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:48 pm to Scruffy
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Everyone is reversing their stances. Every other year - “Brees shouldn’t win it because his D was so bad that he had to throw all the time, inflating his numbers.” 2018 - “Mahomes should win it because his D is so bad that he has to throw the ball all the time, resulting in awesome numbers.”
I thought we were talking this year, right?
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:48 pm to TH03
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Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:50 pm to Bass Tiger
quote:You are using the exact same argument to prop up Mahomes that has been used to say that Brees doesn’t deserve it.
I thought we were talking this year, right?
Don’t be a hypocrite.
Mahomes doesn’t deserve it because his defense is so bad that he has to throw all the time, inflating his numbers.
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:57 pm to MusclesofBrussels
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Rodgers set the QB rating record t
I thought so but wasn’t sure
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:57 pm to Bass Tiger
No shite idiot.
You’re trying to say mahomes is mvp based on the same reasoning we used for brees in past years.
If you don’t see the hypocrisy, you’re insane.
You’re trying to say mahomes is mvp based on the same reasoning we used for brees in past years.
If you don’t see the hypocrisy, you’re insane.
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:57 pm to DelU249
Mahomes just posted a 103 QB rating with 3tds and no ints.
We’re so used to him throwing for 350 and 5 TDs that Saints fans are acting like this effort just lost him the MVP
We’re so used to him throwing for 350 and 5 TDs that Saints fans are acting like this effort just lost him the MVP
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:58 pm to Scruffy
“Brees doesn’t deserve it because his defense sucks and he has to throw more”
“Mahomes deserves it because his defense sucks and he has to throw it more”
“Mahomes deserves it because his defense sucks and he has to throw it more”
Posted on 12/23/18 at 11:59 pm to Scruffy
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Every other year - “Brees shouldn’t win it because his D was so bad that he had to throw all the time, inflating his numbers.” 2018 - “Mahomes should win it because his D is so bad that he has to throw the ball all the time, resulting in awesome numbers.”
The years Brees had a bad D he was 7-9, not 12-4/11-5
Posted on 12/24/18 at 12:03 am to H-Town Tiger
Your point? Those teams would’ve been 2-14 without brees. Chiefs went 10-6 with Alex smith last year.
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