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Posted on 10/16/15 at 4:21 pm to RTR America
I respectfully disagree with Izzo. The current rules allow for more variance in styles, and that's what's great about the college game, if you aks me.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 4:32 pm to ballscaster
quote:Why don't we go back to the 45 second shot clock if it's variance you want...
I respectfully disagree with Izzo. The current rules allow for more variance in styles, and that's what's great about the college game, if you aks me.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 4:38 pm to Pels Bells
quote:Wouldn't bother me.
Why don't we go back to the 45 second shot clock if it's variance you want...
Posted on 10/16/15 at 4:47 pm to chalmetteowl
I don't think it's being phased out as much as it is deemphasized. Teams now are more conscious of how to play the percentages.
If a guy makes 60% of his midrange shots and 25% of his threes - he'll probably be asked to continue shooting the midrange shot because the stats say he should.
He would average 12 ppg just shooting midrange as opposed to 7.5 points shooting only threes.
However, if he makes 48% of his midrange shots and 36% of his threes - he'll be coached to shoot more 3s because the stats say he should.
If said player shot 10 times a game and only shot midrange shots, he'd average 9.6 ppg, however, if he shot 10 times per game and only shot threes, he'd average 10.8 ppg.
It took basketball coaches a long time to see the light, statistically but it's the way most teams are run now. Trying to maximize points and possessions.
The midrange shot will always have a place, it's just that for more players, it makes a lot more sense, mathematically, to shoot a three pointer.
If a guy makes 60% of his midrange shots and 25% of his threes - he'll probably be asked to continue shooting the midrange shot because the stats say he should.
He would average 12 ppg just shooting midrange as opposed to 7.5 points shooting only threes.
However, if he makes 48% of his midrange shots and 36% of his threes - he'll be coached to shoot more 3s because the stats say he should.
If said player shot 10 times a game and only shot midrange shots, he'd average 9.6 ppg, however, if he shot 10 times per game and only shot threes, he'd average 10.8 ppg.
It took basketball coaches a long time to see the light, statistically but it's the way most teams are run now. Trying to maximize points and possessions.
The midrange shot will always have a place, it's just that for more players, it makes a lot more sense, mathematically, to shoot a three pointer.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 4:52 pm to hendersonshands
Posted on 10/16/15 at 5:03 pm to corndeaux
Yeah I remember reading part of that. Need to finish it. It also is evidence that teams like Wisconsin could really thrive with a smaller shot clock. Ball movement is the key and if you keep the ball moving, you'll find an open shot in 24 seconds, just like you would in 35
Posted on 10/16/15 at 6:14 pm to RTR America
The first thing that needs to be done is not allowing kids to play AAU ball and still get a scholarship. You have a tiered system set up whee you have guys basically being pros by the time they are 18 and others who are not afforded the same games. And we all know the AAU's coaches are directing players to schools for kickbacks.
AAU has ruined CBB.
AAU has ruined CBB.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 6:47 pm to RTR America
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Tom Izzo: I want college basketball to be a lot more like the NBA
Biggest step would be for players to hit more shots.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 7:41 pm to accnodefense
If it was more like the NBA it would be all about who has the best, most athletic players
Wisconsin and Virginia wouldn't be able to do what they do with NBA style rules.
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So what? Guess they would need to adapt.
Wisconsin and Virginia wouldn't be able to do what they do with NBA style rules.
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So what? Guess they would need to adapt.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 7:50 pm to RTR America
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Tom Izzo: I want college basketball to be a lot more like the NBA
Posted on 10/16/15 at 7:56 pm to sms151t
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I actually believe it will as a result the styles of offense will be sped up and you will not get the old Carolina or Princeton back cuts set up as clean and will be basically taken away.
There will be more isolation and flooding of the sides in my opinion, which to me is boring to watch.
I like the Quarters, as long as they use the media time out at 5 instead of 4.
Again, I know I am in minority and will watch college basketball no matter what.
I agree with you 99%. I love that a team can shorten the game, execute at a high level, and upset a more talented/athletic team...especially, in a tournament format.
The only thing I disagree with a bit is that I'm not 100% sure I'd watch no matter what. If the upset is taken out of the game, and it affects the product of the NCAA tournament, I don't think I'd pay as much attention to the game.
There is nothing wrong with NCAA basketball rules, IMO.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 8:08 pm to RTR America
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Virginia goes from having to defend for 35 seconds to 30.
Yep. You just made their job easier.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 8:10 pm to REG861
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Virginias offensive shortcomings have been exposed the last two tournaments for sure.
Seriously? Like last year when we had our best player coming off an appendectomy and going against Izzo? It was not due to a lack of offensive philosophy. Sometimes you just go cold at the wrong time
This post was edited on 10/16/15 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 10/16/15 at 9:15 pm to RTR America
No way, 2 halves > 4 quarters for basketball.
Posted on 10/16/15 at 10:13 pm to hendersonshands
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Ball movement is the key and if you keep the ball moving, you'll find an open shot in 24 seconds, just like you would in 35
Agreed. All it would do is reduce the margin of error for a bad pass or "passing just to pass". Players would need to be more mindful of their passes...a little more urgent. It would probably, IMO, be the "biggest change" you could make without being a BIG change.
ETA: The more I think about this, the more I like it. Forces teams to think and process before they pass. Wouldn't mind seeing the 3-point line moving back some more either. If the WNBA can have a 22-foot line, NCAA should too.
This post was edited on 10/16/15 at 10:19 pm
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