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re: Tom Herman's dubious claim to fame. The 2014 Ohio State Natty? Not so fast
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:11 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:11 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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And they both rode in as OCs on QBs that did it their way.
They did it the way the coaches called it.
You’re a fricking moron of you think Cardale Jones came up with an offense
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Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:25 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Lol Herman did good at Houston. A lot of people don’t realize Houston had some talent when Herman got there.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 12:35 am to SammyTiger
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You’re a fricking moron of you think Cardale Jones came up with an offense
You are a complete fricking moron if you think Herman, in one week, installed an offense that destroyed Aranda's Wisconsin defense 59-0.
Cardale reverted to the offense he had run since he was 6 years old. Grip-it-and-rip it.
Herman was smart enough to get out of the way. And morons like you were dumb enough to buy into Herman's bullshite.
If Herman was such a genius, how the hell did he lose to Va Tech - a 6-loss team in 2014?
And why was Zeke at a under-100-yard average until Cardale's 3 games - then he became a 235 yard-per-game back.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 12:40 am to BogeyTX
Herman got fired from Texas because he didn't bench his senior QB that was beloved by the locker room. Ehlingher was arse this year. He didn't understand the new offense and wasn't even consistent throwing the checkdown passes.
If you didn't watch their bowl game this year they were in a 17-10 nailbiter with Colorado at halftime. Their offense had stalled out for the past 4 drives and things were going to shite. Turns out Sam got injured at the end of the first half. 3rd quarter starts and the backup Thompson, a redshirt sophomore, comes in and goes 8/10 for 170 yards and 4 TDs. Dude could actually hit a throw longer than 20 yards. It was a revelation. By the 4th quarter its a blow out and the 3rd stringers are in.
Herman was a QB away from putting it together at Texas and he had the QB on the bench waiting for Sam to leave. Sark is set up well to succeed but with the staff changing, things might not go so smoothly. I get why everyone hates Herman but I think Texas fricked themselves firing him.
If you didn't watch their bowl game this year they were in a 17-10 nailbiter with Colorado at halftime. Their offense had stalled out for the past 4 drives and things were going to shite. Turns out Sam got injured at the end of the first half. 3rd quarter starts and the backup Thompson, a redshirt sophomore, comes in and goes 8/10 for 170 yards and 4 TDs. Dude could actually hit a throw longer than 20 yards. It was a revelation. By the 4th quarter its a blow out and the 3rd stringers are in.
Herman was a QB away from putting it together at Texas and he had the QB on the bench waiting for Sam to leave. Sark is set up well to succeed but with the staff changing, things might not go so smoothly. I get why everyone hates Herman but I think Texas fricked themselves firing him.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 8:51 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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You are a complete fricking moron if you think Herman, in one week, installed an offense that destroyed Aranda's Wisconsin defense 59-0.
But I’m supposed to believe Cardale Jones did?
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Cardale reverted to the offense he had run since he was 6 years old. Grip-it-and-rip it.
Are you functionally retarded? Like should I be Nice to you because you’re special?
Grip it and rip it isn’t an offense, and if it was how the frick to the other 10 players on offense know it?
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Herman was smart enough to get out of the way. And morons like you were dumb enough to buy into Herman's bullshite.
If Herman was such a genius, how the hell did he lose to Va Tech - a 6-loss team in 2014?
If Cardioe Jones is such a great QB wtf happened to the rest of his career? No one else smart enough to let him design his own offense on a weeks notice and just grip it and rip it?
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And why was Zeke at a under-100-yard average until Cardale's 3 games - then he became a 235 yard-per-game back.
Because he started to average 25 carries. He never ruched for under 100 yards with 20 carries in a game.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 9:02 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Cardale was a man with no fear in those 3 games. He basically said frick it and went balls to the wall knowing he had nothing to lose. Incredible run of games, one of the best we’ll ever see. He put it all on red like 15 times in a row and came up a winner every time
But Urban was right to try to install Cardale into his offense the following year. It wasn’t good for Cardale, but that offense just churns out wins against lesser teams and puts out gaudy stats year after year, if it ain’t broke don’t fix it
But Urban was right to try to install Cardale into his offense the following year. It wasn’t good for Cardale, but that offense just churns out wins against lesser teams and puts out gaudy stats year after year, if it ain’t broke don’t fix it
This post was edited on 1/3/21 at 9:05 am
Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:58 pm to SammyTiger
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Because he started to average 25 carries.
Herman held Zeke back prior to the Natty run. 16 carries a game prior to the 3-game Natty run.
quote:LOL. You think you are HELPING Herman's case with that stat?
He never rushed for under 100 yards with 20 carries in a game.
Herman had TWO NFL First Team All-Pros on that '14 offense - Zeke Elliott and Michael Thomas. Both were GROSSLY underutilized by the 'genius' Tom Herman
Posted on 1/3/21 at 5:00 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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If Herman was such a genius, how the hell did he lose to Va Tech - a 6-loss team in 2014?
Bud Foster had a hell of a day, Va Tech got immense pass rush, and JT Barrett wasn't named the starting QB until about 3 weeks before that game after Braxton Miller got hurt.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 5:16 pm to VADawg
quote:So, in 3 weeks, Herman couldn't get JT installed in an offense Meyer had run since Bowling Green? But invented a new offense for Cardale in a week?
JT Barrett wasn't named the starting QB until about 3 weeks before that game after Braxton Miller got hurt.
JT lost to a shitty 7-6 Va Tech team - that lost to East Carolina the following week.
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