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Tilman Fertitta says UH needs to stop building stuff and pay players
Posted on 8/25/24 at 9:33 am
Posted on 8/25/24 at 9:33 am
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Speaking at a press conference introducing new University of Houston Athletics Director Eddie Nuñez this week, Tilman Fertitta laid out a new vision for the school's athletics recruiting practices.
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We have to raise a bunch of money for NIL," Fertitta said, per Duarte. "If we don't raise money for NIL, we're not going to be successful."
Fertitta pointed to the growing influence of NIL—name, image and likeness deals—and the proliferation of paying, minor-league options for aspiring pro athletes as the driving reasons for the university to shift how it applies its athletic budget. The owner of the Landry's Inc. empire mentioned UH's 2023 groundbreaking on a $140-million football operations center as an example of money perhaps ill-spent.
"This is how much college athletics has changed," Fertitta said, per Duarte.
"Now you can scratch your head and say 'Do we really need to be spending $140 million on a football facility, or should we take that money from all those donors and use it on NIL?' If you talk to college athletes today, they don't care about the building anymore. They care about 'How much am I getting paid?' Think about it, because you know what they would all tell you: 'Give me that money.'"
It's a remarkably candid assessment of UH's use of funding by Fertitta, a Cougars megadonor and University of Houston dropout who has contributed heavily to his alma mater. The billionaire pledged $20 million to UH in 2016 for the purpose of renovating the school's basketball arena, marking the largest individual donation in UH athletics history. He followed this in 2022 with a pledge of $50 million to UH's college of medicine. The Houston Rockets owner continues to be Cougars athletics' biggest and most public proponent, hosting superstar rap artist and honorary Houstonian Drake at a UH basketball watch party earlier this year at his Post Oak Hotel property.
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UH's athletic department ended the year with a $10 million budget shortfall, which the university is addressing via an internal loan borrowed from one of its "quasi-endowments."
"The University has been clear that UH Athletics is expected to grow its revenue and is excited to watch our new athletics director help make this happen," the university said in a statement to Baldwin.
With the athletics department operating at a loss and millions being spent on now-unwanted facilities, it'll be interesting to see how Fertitta's NIL arguments fare.
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Posted on 8/25/24 at 9:37 am to ragincajun03
He’s not wrong about today’s NIL/TP generation of recruits. Let’s quit pretending these guys are amateur athletes.
Posted on 8/25/24 at 9:41 am to ragincajun03
He's more than able to pay them himself. The idea of fans having to flood slush fund accounts to pay players is ridiculous to most fans.
Posted on 8/25/24 at 9:53 am to ragincajun03
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If you talk to college athletes today, they don't care about the building anymore. They care about 'How much am I getting paid?' Think about it, because you know what they would all tell you: 'Give me that money.'"

Posted on 8/25/24 at 10:01 am to SPEEDY
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If you talk to college athletes today, they don't care about the building anymore. They care about 'How much am I getting paid?' Think about it, because you know what they would all tell you: 'Give me that money.'"
Fans feel differently though and fans are the ones that pay the bills and fans are the center of gravity in CFB.
Posted on 8/25/24 at 10:16 am to POTUS2024
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The idea of fans having to flood slush fund accounts to pay players is ridiculous
This is where I'm at. The whole purpose of "Name, Image, Likeness" was not for my school to take athletic donations from people like me and turn around to use the funds to pay players.
NIL was supposed to be, and sold to the public, as look at poor Johnny or Malcom whom the university and conference makes tons of money on, but he's not allowed to autograph footballs and jerseys in exchange for cash.
Johnny and Malcom can now get paid to do car commercials, to show up at restaurants for speaking events, and sign balls and jerseys for cash. The universities now also pay the cost of attendance stipend. Universities do not need to start paying NIL directly, and should not.
Posted on 8/25/24 at 10:46 am to ragincajun03
There will definitely be an NIL bubble soon. The current model isn’t sustainable. Whatever you give or whatever the players get, it’ll never be enough. Fans of 90% of the teams this year will feel like they got nothing in return and will be less apt to give next year.
Posted on 8/25/24 at 10:59 am to ragincajun03
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NIL was supposed to be, and sold to the public, as look at poor Johnny or Malcom whom the university and conference makes tons of money on, but he's not allowed to autograph footballs and jerseys in exchange for cash.
Anyone that actually thought that was a mouth breather. Kids and colleges don't realize that they will kill the golden goose once the teams break away from the colleges.
Posted on 8/25/24 at 11:30 am to ragincajun03
Somewhat disagree with Tillman here. The best athletes do care about facilities and development as they know that is the only way to long term success. Now, he may know that those kids aren’t going to UH anyway so the next step is to just pay and athlete and figure out the rest later - that will work in the short term and be a massive failure in the long term. Not surprised tillman would have that mentality. His restaurants run on the same mentality - build a brand or buy an idea then shortcut on food quality and cash in
Posted on 8/25/24 at 12:15 pm to ragincajun03
quote:What is he referencing here? The G-League that only pays $40k or the UFL that pays $50k? Players stand to make a lot more in NIL deals playing college ball than they would playing in the UFL or G-League
proliferation of paying, minor-league options for aspiring pro athletes
Posted on 8/25/24 at 12:31 pm to POTUS2024
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He's more than able to pay them himself. The idea of fans having to flood slush fund accounts to pay players is ridiculous to most fans.
What he’s saying is if you’re donating my to the university so that you can have a more successful football program, donate to the NIL collective.
Football players don’t need a new multimillion dollar locker room every 2 years
Posted on 8/25/24 at 12:43 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Football players don’t need a new multimillion dollar locker room every 2 years
This has always been a scam. Anyone in business knows that the quickest way to lose budget money is to not spend what you already got. They just spend it to keep getting it
Posted on 8/25/24 at 2:14 pm to ragincajun03
NIL made Saban quit, that's all you need to know.
Posted on 8/25/24 at 3:17 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Football players don’t need a new multimillion dollar locker room every 2 years
They sure do mention it a lot in their recruiting decisions.
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What he’s saying is if you’re donating my to the university so that you can have a more successful football program, donate to the NIL collective.
Yeah, I understand, and most fans think that is dumb. The thing that bonds everyone together is the school. It's the only nexus in all of this. Fans are now told, 'forget your school, the thing that you have an emotional attachment for, and give money to a slush fund for people that don't care about your school'. This is a non-starter for most fans.
What we have now is an extortion scheme and that's not going to survive.
Fans are tired of being shite on. NIL is an insult to them. Buyouts for failed coaches are an insult to them. TV commercials and changes to clock rules are an insult to them. Diluting the best regular season in sports, the thing most responsible for the uniqueness of CFB among all sports is an insult to them. People will walk away. And when they do, all of CFB will implode. And when that happens, entire athletic departments will implode. The people destroying CFB right now are putting every other sport in jeopardy as well.
Everyone knows that Tebow and Burrow were both great players, but LSU fans don't walk around with Tebow jerseys and Gator fans don't walk around with Burrow jerseys. The fans are bonded to the school. They are bonded to the players through the school.
The fan is the center of gravity in college football. If all these players went on strike right now - every locker room in America would have 500 or more people standing in it by dawn on Monday morning. And the stadiums would be at least 90% full, probably more, on Saturday. In the recent years when UF was awful and had losing seasons, the stadium still averaged about 98.5% attendance. They showed up because they love the school. Same at LSU, same at Bama, and Texas, and Michigan etc. If the fans went on strike, however, the sport is immediately dead in the water.
Look how long Nebraska has been hot garbage - and they sell out every game.
If the players don't figure that out, they will contribute to destroying the sport and their pathway to the NFL, to a degree, to a great 4 or 5 years of their lives, etc.
People are posting receipts from their Walmart shopping list, showing food is well over 100% more for them now than just 4 or 5 years ago. Rent is 25% higher, or more. Car prices are simply stupid. Interest rates up and the economic outlook is down. And Tillman Fertitta wants them to stroke a check for NIL? That's not going to happen. Nor should it. He is completely out of touch, as is everyone else calling the shots in CFB right now.
Posted on 8/25/24 at 4:05 pm to ragincajun03
My love for college football is dead.
Make a damn semi pro league and let players go there to get paid and try to make it to the nfl.
Make a damn semi pro league and let players go there to get paid and try to make it to the nfl.
This post was edited on 8/25/24 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 8/25/24 at 4:15 pm to KillTheGophers
No one plays for a school or program anymore, Tom Brady was right about that.
They play for a temporary team. Hard to get excited about that as fans of a school.
They play for a temporary team. Hard to get excited about that as fans of a school.
Posted on 8/30/24 at 11:36 pm to ragincajun03
Lol. That pathetic excuse for a human being is a billionaire who laid off his workers during Covid. UH needs to completely ignore him.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 12:57 am to ragincajun03
I've been to Tilman Fertita's house in River Oaks in Houston. I was like 25 and my brother's friend was friends with their son. That have a security booth at front of their drive way. Very nice backyard with like a pool maze. I walked up and felt awkward being there. Tilman's wife was looking at me like who the eff are you?
It was one of the koom-bi-yah parties where there's like 15 people gathered around an outdoor table talking who all knew each other I imagine. That's not the kind of party where you don't know anyone you want to be at

It was one of the koom-bi-yah parties where there's like 15 people gathered around an outdoor table talking who all knew each other I imagine. That's not the kind of party where you don't know anyone you want to be at
This post was edited on 8/31/24 at 1:03 am
Posted on 8/31/24 at 7:49 am to ragincajun03
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Universities do not need to start paying NIL directly, and should not
The federal courts issued a multi billion $ penalty against the universities saying they will pay NIL directly to pay that debt. And they should. They made 100s of millions at a minimum when they didn't have to pay players. Each program that received TV money. They got off easy.
The part many disagree with and scoff at is the fact that now the universities expect taxpayers/fans to foot that bill also while also footing the bill for everything else donor related. Where's all those millions? Where's the govt money they receive yearly going? Education? Really? Doesnt the football program also loan the education side money? That where you lose people like me. I'm not donating to a school who already has and will receive 100s of millions so that they can pay athletes on top of having my child brainwashed into accepting an Orwellion future all under the farce of education. They made their bed now they must lie in it. Alone.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 7:57 am to KillTheGophers
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Make a damn semi pro league and let players go there to get paid and try to make it to the nfl.
And this is the delicious irony of the entire system. A semipro league without any affiliation to the university would flop. It's the reason why the USFL or any other minor league football team isn't successful. Because at the end of the day the fans are loyal to the program and not the players themselves.
I wish universities would realize this and use this leverage against the athletes. I'm not saying the old way was perfect this is pure insanity.
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