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re: This perfectly illustrates the insanity of today's College Coaching Contracts.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 2:09 pm to Long and Tall
Posted on 10/21/25 at 2:09 pm to Long and Tall
Are you dumb?
Are you still being paid the same amount of workers in the late 70s.
Are you still being paid the same amount of workers in the late 70s.
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Posted on 10/21/25 at 2:41 pm to mule74
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College football is going to come to an end faster than people think.
For purists. I'm finding myself not caring nearly as much. But I played football, got some (brief) college coaching experience, and coached high school ball for a bit. Whatever CFB has becoming and is in the process of becoming, it is losing me at a high velocity.
For the market? CFB won't end for a long, long time, and that's because of gambling. Add in the common fan that just wants something on TV or a reason to drink alcohol, and you've got a huge market for throwing money around.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 4:31 pm to Dr RC
Anything observed by television cameras tends to grow unnaturally large and unnaturally fast.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 4:41 pm to Long and Tall
Woody was also a professor and taught classes at Ohio State.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 4:56 pm to Long and Tall
Woody would have likely moved on the second he knew that a huge part of his job was managing an open transfer portal, the ego's of boosters that essentially bought his starting QB during recruiting, the fact that every team in the Big 10 was going to get big money from a TV contract, and thus, be in play for every player he was thinking of recruiting, etc. Hell, having to be interviewed by Holly Rowe walking off the field would have been a shock. He, like us, would have longed for the days of Jill Arrington.
Unless....someone offered him a lot of money to put up with all that crap. Well, the money flowed, so job security was the next domino to fall.
I hate most of the evolution (I think NIL is fine or the portal is fine, but not both in conjunction) today, but lets not act like they had the problems or the resources back then, because if they did, the second Michigan State hires that day's Mel Tucker....boom goes the dynamite. Taking us back to that timeframe means we are all huddled around a radio 70% of the time and reading box scores in the morning. I prefer this era for the access it gives us, even if it costs folks a lot of money to get rid of a coach. However....with the portal and NIL together, a lot of that will end soon. This isnt becoming the NFL. The NFL has very structured contracts tying a player to a team.
Unless....someone offered him a lot of money to put up with all that crap. Well, the money flowed, so job security was the next domino to fall.
I hate most of the evolution (I think NIL is fine or the portal is fine, but not both in conjunction) today, but lets not act like they had the problems or the resources back then, because if they did, the second Michigan State hires that day's Mel Tucker....boom goes the dynamite. Taking us back to that timeframe means we are all huddled around a radio 70% of the time and reading box scores in the morning. I prefer this era for the access it gives us, even if it costs folks a lot of money to get rid of a coach. However....with the portal and NIL together, a lot of that will end soon. This isnt becoming the NFL. The NFL has very structured contracts tying a player to a team.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 5:43 pm to Dr RC
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His last 5 years tOSU played just 17 out of 60 games on TV and 5 of those were bowls.
I have to call bullshite on this.
Every OSU/Michigan game was televised.
So 5 Bowl Games plus 5 Michigan games only leaves 7 games.
So you are saying that in 5 years there were only 7 other Ohio State games that were televised ?
I find that difficult to believe.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 5:54 pm to r0cky1
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Are you dumb?
Are you still being paid the same amount of workers in the late 70s.
Are you really that stupid ?
Woody was making double, maybe triple, the average wage at the time.
Ryan Day is making over 10 mill a year.
Is the average worker today making 5 mill a year ?
Holy shite you're dumb
This post was edited on 10/21/25 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 10/21/25 at 6:25 pm to Long and Tall
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Are you really that stupid ?
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by Long and Tall
You have 70 usernames
Posted on 10/21/25 at 7:04 pm to Long and Tall
I’m fine with big contracts given the revenue these football programs generate. However, the construct of these contracts needs to shift to HEAVY at risk pay.
Effectively, 10-20% of the pay is base contract and the rest is at-risk. Someone like Brian Kelly shouldn’t get paid anything beyond base contract unless he makes the CFB Playoff. If he wins it all, then a massive one-time payday (don’t know what number exactly makes sense but like $15M).
Make it truly pay for performance and rid the universities of huge contracts for guys that fail more often than succeed.
Effectively, 10-20% of the pay is base contract and the rest is at-risk. Someone like Brian Kelly shouldn’t get paid anything beyond base contract unless he makes the CFB Playoff. If he wins it all, then a massive one-time payday (don’t know what number exactly makes sense but like $15M).
Make it truly pay for performance and rid the universities of huge contracts for guys that fail more often than succeed.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 7:19 pm to Long and Tall
Inflation calculator from 1978(Woody’s last year coaching) says $75,000 back then is about $372,000 today. That’s pretty respectable money even today, but nothing like these multi-millionaire celebrity coaches.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 7:22 pm to r0cky1
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Are you dumb? Are you still being paid the same amount of workers in the late 70s.
Inflation Calculator
Posted on 10/21/25 at 7:46 pm to Long and Tall
According to google there was over 553 million in dead money buyouts from 2010-2021 being paid to former coaches. This doesn’t include Jimbos buyout. fricking insane.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 8:00 pm to lsufan1971
The bigger issue is getting the first of these high at-risk deals signed and giving the agents the bird when they refuse. In short, a collection of big programs will have to establish a new norm and break the agents (e.g., Sexton). Eventually, an up and coming coach with bet on himself and agree to the deal. The established coaches will want the “sure thing” contract of old that is a monolith.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 8:02 pm to Long and Tall
quote:what exactly makes the free market dictating how much these coaches are paid and how their contracts are structured a clown world?
Clown World
Posted on 10/21/25 at 8:23 pm to Long and Tall
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This is how you justify coaches getting contracts that pay them 10's of Millions when they get fired for sucking ?
Yes
Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:13 pm to r0cky1
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Are you dumb?
Are you still being paid the same amount of workers in the late 70s.
Workers today aren’t earning 150X what workers in the late seventies made.
And yes. The total revenue CFB rakes in has to go somewhere whether it’s coaches, players or facilities. Coaches get paid a lot because of this.
And…college football is a bloated, excessive mess right now. Knowing “the why” doesn’t make that statement less true.
Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:02 pm to Dadren
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Workers today aren’t earning 150X what workers in the late seventies made. And yes. The total revenue CFB rakes in has to go somewhere whether it’s coaches, players or facilities. Coaches get paid a lot because of this. And…college football is a bloated, excessive mess right now. Knowing “the why” doesn’t make that statement less true.
Blah blah
Move to Russia or China if you hate the free market. If the market dictates these prices, why not? I don’t have an issue with the contracts being high. They are the ones generating the revenue by essentially creating the product. I have a problem whth AD’s doing these bozo buyouts. Everything else, let em make it rain
Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:09 pm to r0cky1
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If the market dictates these prices, why not?
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I have a problem whth AD’s doing these bozo buyouts.
You do understand the that the buyouts are also a result of “muh free market”, right?
Or are you just “muh free market” when it suits you?
This post was edited on 10/21/25 at 10:10 pm
Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:17 pm to Hooligan33
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Hell, having to be interviewed by Holly Rowe walking off the field would have been a shock. He, like us, would have longed for the days of Jill Arrington.
Why is one the greatest sideline reporters ever catching a stray here?
Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:24 pm to Long and Tall
College football used to be a lot more "love of the game" vibes for sure.
It's still fun to watch and follow but the fact it's now 100% business is depressing.
There is something to be said for back when it was at least somewhat more about the schools and the fans and traditions.
It's still fun to watch and follow but the fact it's now 100% business is depressing.
There is something to be said for back when it was at least somewhat more about the schools and the fans and traditions.
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