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re: Things might get worse for PSU. Much, much worse.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 9:46 am to WDE24
Posted on 11/10/11 at 9:46 am to WDE24
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The timing of it doesn't seem like it has anything to do with this and there are many, many other explanations that are as or more likely to be true.
I watched the Discovery ID special on the disappearance of Gricar, and being tied into this scandal is actually the only explanation that would make sense. The timeline fits right with the original 1998 - 1999 allegation that Gricar was in charge of investigating against Sandusky. Throw in the whole cult like behavior of everyone in this town and the startling things now being brought forth through the grand jury indictment onwards and it's not such a stretch to connect some dots here.
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Posted on 11/10/11 at 9:46 am to WDE24
quote:he was the DA with the power to prosecute Sandusky and decided against it after an "investigation. He goes "missing"
The timing of it doesn't seem like it has anything to do with this
You don't think that there is any connection? It's State College, PA. It's not NYC where people are reported missing all the time.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 9:46 am to WDE24
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He pretty much did.
No, he didn't. There's no "pretty much did." He did not. But I understand why you think he did.
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Why isn't espn reporting this? waiting for a reliable source?
No way they start reporting that without at least SOME semblance of proof. That's irresponsible journalism and warmongering with no proof (if you're a reputable source).
Posted on 11/10/11 at 9:46 am to Tiger Ryno
The new rumor is that Penn State was using the Second Mile program as slush fund to pay players, making the NCAA able to get involved.
I'd rather believe this rumor than the aforementioned, that one's too much to bare.
I'd rather believe this rumor than the aforementioned, that one's too much to bare.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 9:46 am to teke184
Posted on 11/10/11 at 9:48 am to PuntBamaPunt
I had a feeling a sex ring was going to come out from this
Posted on 11/10/11 at 9:48 am to Pilot Tiger
quote:First, he went missing almost 10 years after the investigation that he didn't prosecute. Second, he was either inept or part of the cover up, so he wasn't in danger from the powers that be. Third, as a DA you make a lot of enemies with a lot of dangerous people. Fourth, his brother committed suicide and his car was found near the area where it happened, IIRC.
he was the DA with the power to prosecute Sandusky and decided against it after an "investigation. He goes "missing"
Posted on 11/10/11 at 9:49 am to Pilot Tiger
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You don't think that there is any connection? It's State College, PA. It's not NYC where people are reported missing all the time.
Believing these events are connected is definitely a reasonable conclusion. ESPECIALLY if big time powerful people were involved in the scandal.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 9:49 am to CocomoLSU
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CocomoLSU
going to the basketball game Saturday?
/hijack
Posted on 11/10/11 at 9:50 am to WDE24
some guy with connections on the rivals mainboard just posted
anyone else see that post?
quote:he supposedly works for espn america based in london
50-50 chance at best PSU plays Saturday
Passing along information
anyone else see that post?
Posted on 11/10/11 at 9:50 am to dallasga6
After the news spread, Madden later explained via Twitter why he went public with the rumors.
"I normally abhor giving RUMORS credence," Madden wrote. "But whole Sandusky scandal started out as a RUMOR. It gets deeper and more disgusting all the time. One of state's top columnists investigating. That adds credence. I am NOT rumor's original source. [Why does] Sandusky deserve benefit of doubt?"
Madden also spoke more definitively on Dennis and Callahan to the cover-up efforts at the school and beyond that he expects will be made public soon.
"The other thing I think that may eventually become uncovered, and I talked about this in my original article back in April, is that I think they'll find out that Jerry Sandusky was told that he had to retire in exchange for a cover-up," Madden said. "If you look at the timeline, that makes perfect sense, doesn't it?
"My opinion is when Sandusky quit, everybody knew -- not just at Penn State," Madden added. "I think it was a very poorly kept secret about college football in general, and that is why he never coached in college football again and retired at the relatively young age of 55. [That's] young for a coach, certainly."
"I normally abhor giving RUMORS credence," Madden wrote. "But whole Sandusky scandal started out as a RUMOR. It gets deeper and more disgusting all the time. One of state's top columnists investigating. That adds credence. I am NOT rumor's original source. [Why does] Sandusky deserve benefit of doubt?"
Madden also spoke more definitively on Dennis and Callahan to the cover-up efforts at the school and beyond that he expects will be made public soon.
"The other thing I think that may eventually become uncovered, and I talked about this in my original article back in April, is that I think they'll find out that Jerry Sandusky was told that he had to retire in exchange for a cover-up," Madden said. "If you look at the timeline, that makes perfect sense, doesn't it?
"My opinion is when Sandusky quit, everybody knew -- not just at Penn State," Madden added. "I think it was a very poorly kept secret about college football in general, and that is why he never coached in college football again and retired at the relatively young age of 55. [That's] young for a coach, certainly."
Posted on 11/10/11 at 9:50 am to CocomoLSU
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That's not what he said. But whatever.
Go re read Lester's posts. it is exactly what he said all day yesterday.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 9:51 am to therick711
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You have a perception problem. Your indignance that people would paint PSU with a broad brush is probably better aimed at your morally complicit administration and coach, your media that fulfills no watchdog function, and your tone-deaf students.
I'm the one with a perception problem? I'm not the one calling all Penn State students, alumni, teachers, etc. pedophiles. I'm vilifying those that are responsible and defending those that are not. Clearly, I'm not the one with a perception problem, some of you are.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 9:52 am to WDE24
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First, he went missing almost 10 years after the investigation that he didn't prosecute.
I would expect that the latest investigation led, or would have led to questions about how he handled the initial investigation.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 9:53 am to CocomoLSU
quote:He repeated in his defense of why JoePa should get one more game that JoePa did what he was supposed to do while by reporting it to his superiors and argued when people said Joe Pa had no real superiors.
No, he didn't. There's no "pretty much did." He did not. But I understand why you think he did.
FWIW-I don't really care. I'm not really one to attack or target individual posters (unless occasionally I am in the process of debating them and they open themselves up for it).
Posted on 11/10/11 at 9:53 am to WDE24
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First, he went missing almost 10 years after the investigation that he didn't prosecute. Second, he was either inept or part of the cover up, so he wasn't in danger from the powers that be. Third, as a DA you make a lot of enemies with a lot of dangerous people
lol yea, as DA of State College, Pa. A PART TIME JOB, I'm sure he made enemies with many dangerous criminals, much akin to Harvey Dent in Gotham City
There has obviously been some sort of coverup at Penn State. It wouldn't surprise me if Gricar was bought and then later on, started talking and then was silenced.
Have you read about the culture of PA? Do you not see how it's possible, especially considering how controlled the flow of information was?
Posted on 11/10/11 at 9:54 am to Clockwatcher68
quote:Agreed, but my understanding is that he went missing in 2005 and the latest investigation didn't begin until 2008. I may be off on my dates. I am going strictly from memory and I have read a bunch of different articles, so I may be getting dates confused.
I would expect that the latest investigation led, or would have led to questions about how he handled the initial investigation.
This post was edited on 11/10/11 at 9:57 am
Posted on 11/10/11 at 9:54 am to Oates Mustache
You = Penn State. Go play intramurals, brotha.
/I really just wanted to use Dan Hawkins' quote there even though it isn't relevant.
/I really just wanted to use Dan Hawkins' quote there even though it isn't relevant.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 9:56 am to WDE24
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It is completely unfounded, rumor at this point. You don't go with something like this without some significant corroborating evidence.
Yea that's what I thought. If ESPN did this and it turned out false, it would kill Penn State's image (what's left of it) and kill ESPNs creditability.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 9:56 am to therick711
You guy lay off oates mustache. your idiotic to lump every single PSU person into this mess. He is a good poster and is furious about these events just like most of us are.
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