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re: Theory on why the NBA is so trash these days

Posted on 2/22/25 at 4:15 pm to
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/22/25 at 4:15 pm to
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You think the NFL owners would allow this


The owners in a league that plasters END RACISM and IT TAKES ALL OF US everywhere every season ?

The nba only did that shite in the bubble.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Lift every voice and sing
Member since Oct 2011
39534 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 6:46 pm to
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Make the 3 point shot only worth 1 point and dunks 3 points. That would change the game for the better
This would be worst than the post up era and is a terrible idea.
Posted by Revorising
Member since Jan 2013
774 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 6:51 pm to
1- Kobe is gone.
2- Too many 3’s
3- 2020 politics
4-the players are terrible role models. Not that they were great in 90’s. Today we get the likes of LaMelo Ball and Ja Morant…. Do the math.
5- the superstars of today are all foreign. That does not resonate with me.
6- players do not care to compete. Just want that check. Kobe and Michael and others were ruthless in victory. That killer instinct is gone.

Last thing I will say is that they lost me and I have no desire to tune in ever again. The NBA is dying a slow death.


Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
148030 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 6:57 pm to
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1- Kobe is gone.
2- Too many 3’s
3- 2020 politics
4-the players are terrible role models. Not that they were great in 90’s. Today we get the likes of LaMelo Ball and Ja Morant…. Do the math.
5- the superstars of today are all foreign. That does not resonate with me.
6- players do not care to compete. Just want that check. Kobe and Michael and others were ruthless in victory. That killer instinct is gone.

Posted by Vandergriff
Member since Nov 2020
1340 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:01 pm to
NBA is terrible because the regular season is a long slough of meaningless stat padding.

Star players miss several games for "game management ", no one cares to play defense, basically just a 3 point shooting exhibition.

It's just a terrible product .
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
450394 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:21 pm to
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Are these "stars" really worth that much?

In terms of basketball? Yes

In terms of salary? The top guys are way underpaid.

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NBA ratings are, to be kind, stagnant.

Did you just see the new deals the NBA inked this offseason?

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Why are owners paying max value for players who don't bring any extra eyeballs to the brand, if not outright alienating fans?

For one, they're contractually obligated to do so.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
450394 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:23 pm to
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Every game is 3 point contest or dunk. It’s boring. No real play just street ball.

It's the opposite of street ball
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
35423 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:25 pm to
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For one, they're contractually obligated to do so.


Thank you for making my point. The league is structurally flawed by forcing themselves into a compensation framework that doesn't reflect economic reality.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:27 pm to
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Thank you for making my point. The league is structurally flawed by forcing themselves into a compensation framework that doesn't reflect economic reality.

How?

It's a % of league revenue.

If the economic reality changes, their salaries change. Right now, the economic reality is record revenue, so you see record salaries in exact proportion (well, they did smooth the cap this time so eventually in direct proportion).
Posted by Spelt it rong
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
10497 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:49 pm to
It all started when the players forced their way into "big 3s" for me. Then everything became a 3 point attempt
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
148030 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:51 pm to
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that doesn't reflect economic reality
what part of record revenues do you not understand
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
450394 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:24 pm to
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what part of record revenues do you not understand

Pretty sure he walked into it and had no idea what the situation is, both in terms of how max contracts are calculated to the fact that revenues are now record highs.

He'll either not come back or come back and pivot to talking about that next contract

Also, to the people who think the NBA gives big markets advantages they big mad

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New York Knicks owner James Dolan leveled continued criticism of the NBA's revenue sharing policies, outlining a denunciation of a possible 8% league office cut of the new $74.6 billion media deal and a national television and streaming package that renders the league's regional sports networks as "unviable," according to a letter shared with the NBA's board of governors and obtained by ESPN on Monday.

Dolan has been a consistent critic of the league's revenue sharing policies that distribute money from local media rights and sponsorship deals in high-earning big markets to smaller-market teams. In a November letter to the board of governors, Dolan resigned his positions on the league's influential advisory/finance and media committees, ESPN reported. He previously launched an unorthodox lawsuit against the Toronto Raptors that questioned the objectivity of commissioner Adam Silver.


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"The NBA has made the move to an NFL model -- deemphasizing and depowering the local market," Dolan wrote in the letter. "Soon, your only revenue concern will be the sale of tickets and what color next year's jersey will be. Don't worry, because due to revenue pooling, you are guaranteed to be neither a success nor a failure.

"Of course, to get there, the league must take down the successful franchises and redistribute to the less successful. This new media deal goes a long way to accomplishing that goal."
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:29 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
450394 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:33 pm to
James Dolan calling the Knicks a successful franchise is....something.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
160391 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:57 pm to
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The board of governors


This is still so retarded
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
35423 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 9:29 pm to
If you are overpaying labor (especially if you are contractually bound to overpay labor) it is irrelevant what your revenues are. You have a systemically flawed system.

Why would I pay a PG or PF max compensation if he doesn't bring any extra eyeballs or value to the product?

Be honest, how many players in today's NBA bring the average sports fan to the TV set? Not the pro hoops die hard. The casual average sports fan.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
39113 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 9:30 pm to
The push on player over team has led to players who are not good teammates.

Who could have guessed that?!?!

Playoffs are so long and so many teams get in it diluting regular season.

Make the playoffs tbe division winners and a 1 game play in between two best non-division winners

And call traveling
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
148030 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 9:31 pm to
everthing you said literally dosnt matter. you are no longer making points tied to the economic reality of the situation. you understand that right?
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
8658 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 9:35 pm to
Too many 3s. The Warriors and Rockets started it and now the entire league does it.

Adam Silver has already said rule changes are coming.
Posted by Dalosaqy
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Member since Dec 2007
12728 posts
Posted on 2/22/25 at 10:16 pm to
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Theory on why the NBA is so trash these days
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