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re: The "worst rule in football" isn't wrong at all.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 1:12 pm to Bunk Moreland
Posted on 1/21/21 at 1:12 pm to Bunk Moreland
The defense should have to make a play and actually recover the ball to get out of the disadvantageous position of having the opponent threaten their goal line. Rewarding them with an automatic touchback when they are in danger of giving up a score makes no sense.
And it's not like the offense doesn't encounter risk when fumbling the ball. The defense could still recover it in the endzone and get a touchback. But if it doesn't, just bring it back to the spot of the fumble.
And it's not like the offense doesn't encounter risk when fumbling the ball. The defense could still recover it in the endzone and get a touchback. But if it doesn't, just bring it back to the spot of the fumble.
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 1:19 pm to Diseasefreeforall
Defense should have it as a penalty to the offense for fumbling as well as disincentive to fumble forwards.
But put the ball at the 5 or maybe 10. The 20 is too much.
But put the ball at the 5 or maybe 10. The 20 is too much.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 1:24 pm to Bunk Moreland
The best way to avoid the "rule" is to not stick the dadgum football out there like it's not important. The offense should be penalized for fumbling and in this case it's usually because of carelessness.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 1:33 pm to Diseasefreeforall
The defense presumably made a play by forcing the fumble.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 1:35 pm to Bunk Moreland
100% fine with this rule.
Don't fumble there. Problem solved.
Don't fumble there. Problem solved.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 1:36 pm to Bunk Moreland
I got no problem with it. I mean, don’t fricking fumble the ball that close to the end zone.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 1:49 pm to markinkaty
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I don't like the horse-collar tackle rule. Defender is running at full speed trying to grab what he can to get runner down. Seems artificial penalization of defense
It is wild to think this may have been a sizeable portion of my tackles back in high school that you can't do now, but there were some pretty gnarly injuries that brought the rule about. If you watch old film, you're almost shocked by how there weren't more knees and ankles ending careers by horse collar.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 1:50 pm to GerryDiNardo
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Problem solved and we stop rewarding the defense for an offensive player trying to stretch the ball out.
Reaching the ball out to skim the end zone should come with some risk because there is a lot of reward.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 1:53 pm to Bunk Moreland
I think that if you fumble it out of the end zone, you should retain possession, but you start the next play at either the original line of scrimmage or the opponent’s 20 (aka 20 yards from scoring), whichever is further away. Therefore it’s not so punitive you lose possession, while also respecting the sanctity of the end zone.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 1:56 pm to Bunk Moreland
Another rule I hate is "half the distance to the goal" on an offensive penalty.
The offense is basically rewarded on a penalty for having shitty field position.
If you're caught holding, it should still be a 10 yard penalty. Just move the line to gain up how ever many yards it takes.
The offense is basically rewarded on a penalty for having shitty field position.
If you're caught holding, it should still be a 10 yard penalty. Just move the line to gain up how ever many yards it takes.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 2:32 pm to Bunk Moreland
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The "worst rule in football"
Why is this thread not about what constitutes a catch?
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The defense should have to make a play and actually recover the ball to get out of the disadvantageous position of having the opponent threaten their goal line. Rewarding them with an automatic touchback when they are in danger of giving up a score makes no sense.
You can’t be serious...
Causing a turnover is half the goal of defense, the other being keeping them out of scoring position.
Football can be won or lost on the goal line. That’s the holy land. If a crusader ran into fricking Jerusalem without a weapon he’d lose his arse.
The football is said weapon. Why reward the offense for dropping the namesake of the damn game?
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 1/21/21 at 2:35 pm to Bunk Moreland
This rules pretty garbage a kick returner can stand out of bounds and touch a ball that’s in bounds causing a penalty
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 2:37 pm to Bunk Moreland
Furthermore, the dumbest rule/penalty is not enough men on the line of scrimmage for offense.
If the offense wants to give up ground they've fought for by lining any or all of their players short of the ball, that should be up to them. They can't get a running start forwards so there's no advantages being created, just disadvantages.
If the offense wants to give up ground they've fought for by lining any or all of their players short of the ball, that should be up to them. They can't get a running start forwards so there's no advantages being created, just disadvantages.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 2:42 pm to Bunk Moreland
I like the rule. Makes you think twice about reaching out for the pylon. There should be risk involved with that.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 1/21/21 at 2:44 pm to Bunk Moreland
I understand the gripes with the rule, I just don't care about them 
the endzone is special, don't fumble it there
just like you can't commit holding there without penalty of a safety
the endzone is special, don't fumble it there
just like you can't commit holding there without penalty of a safety
Posted on 1/21/21 at 2:45 pm to NawlinsTiger9
Another great rule IMO. Doesn't get called enough
Posted on 1/21/21 at 2:50 pm to SammyTiger
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Reaching the ball out to skim the end zone should come with some risk because there is a lot of reward.
There's still plenty of risk. The defense can still recover the ball if it's fumbled before crossing the goal line.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 1/21/21 at 2:58 pm to GerryDiNardo
So what if he just fumbles and wasn't reaching for the EZ?
Posted on 1/21/21 at 3:04 pm to Bunk Moreland
It's literally the stupidest rule.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 3:15 pm to SammyTiger
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Reaching the ball out to skim the end zone should come with some risk because there is a lot of reward.
I think there is a super obvious solution that still punishes the offense but doesn’t reward the defense for something they didn’t do (recover the fumble).
Make fumbling the ball out of the end zone a touchback rewarded to the OFFENSE.
- It’s still a 20 yard penalty when you were on the goal line, that’s very significant
- the defense doesn’t get rewarded a turnover for something they didn’t do
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