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re: the irony of the NBA's China fiasco
Posted on 10/10/19 at 12:23 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Posted on 10/10/19 at 12:23 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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Root for the Spurs. Better team and city just down the street, ol' sport
The lippy, grumpy old man prowling the sideline makes you just as unlikable as us.
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Posted on 10/10/19 at 12:25 pm to MSMHater
msg delete splurge
This post was edited on 10/10/19 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 10/10/19 at 12:28 pm to gizmoflak
Once Morey sent the tweet, any damage was basically a sunk cost at that point. There was no getting that billion dollars or whatever it ends up affecting the NBA / China relationship back.
What you see now from the NBA is the process of smoothing everything over behind the scenes w/ China and hoping the public’s attention gets diverted elsewhere.
What you see now from the NBA is the process of smoothing everything over behind the scenes w/ China and hoping the public’s attention gets diverted elsewhere.
This post was edited on 10/10/19 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 10/10/19 at 12:31 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Ha, if I get into any NBA this year, I'll shamelessly jump back on the hometown bandwagon and root for Zion and the Pels.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 12:34 pm to MSMHater
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The lippy, grumpy old man prowling the sideline makes you just as unlikable as us.
Yeah but the team owners are MAGA people and we're Military City, USA, so we got the shite all balanced out
Posted on 10/10/19 at 12:36 pm to Rep520
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The NBA sees 1.3 billion people who they're trying to make generational fans out of. That's the end goal more than TV deals, etc. They want kids in China growing up NBA fans just as much as the money now.
If that is the case, then a response from the NBA was unnecessary. People are attaching the CCP and the Chinese population together, when in fact they are not. One just controls the other. The CCP needs the NBA as much as the NBA needs the CCP's approval. They want influence in our culture and they aren't going to turn their backs to more Dollars, which they desperately need right now.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 12:42 pm to wutangfinancial
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If that is the case, then a response from the NBA was unnecessary. People are attaching the CCP and the Chinese population together, when in fact they are not. One just controls the other. The CCP needs the NBA as much as the NBA needs the CCP's approval. They want influence in our culture and they aren't going to turn their backs to more Dollars, which they desperately need right now.
This is why I think this will eventually and quietly work out. The NBA has something China's leadership wants too.
The intial response from China is designed to not look weak, but both sides have too much mutual motivation not to work this out.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 12:49 pm to Rep520
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both sides have too much mutual motivation not to work this out.
This.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 12:54 pm to TbirdSpur2010
That would imply both sides are rational actors who are thinking in similar terms.
The NBA is trying to save the China money without creating major problems at home by firing Morey and bowing down to a foreign dictatorship.
China is used to getting its way and being told “We don’t do that here” apparently gets a bug up their arse.
China is going to make a hard demand for Morey’s job and an apology.
The NBA will continue to soft pedal the whole thing and hope it goes away.
Honestly, I think Silver knows the league and China are separating but wants China to be seen as overreacting and pulling out rather than the NBA provoking them into doing so.
The NBA is trying to save the China money without creating major problems at home by firing Morey and bowing down to a foreign dictatorship.
China is used to getting its way and being told “We don’t do that here” apparently gets a bug up their arse.
China is going to make a hard demand for Morey’s job and an apology.
The NBA will continue to soft pedal the whole thing and hope it goes away.
Honestly, I think Silver knows the league and China are separating but wants China to be seen as overreacting and pulling out rather than the NBA provoking them into doing so.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 12:59 pm to teke184
quote:This right here.
That would imply both sides are rational actors who are thinking in similar terms.
Now, maybe China will shock the world and let this stuff go, but I would not count on it. Like I said earlier, we're talking about a government that banned Winnie the Pooh. Let that sink in.
^^^ This guy here is apparently a threat to social stability in China
Posted on 10/10/19 at 1:03 pm to Kodar
Hong Kong is revolting? Oh bother.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 1:06 pm to stapuffmarshy
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The belief that the rest of the world would back an American based business vs China is just so American.
You say you pay attention to the rest of the world, but with this thread I don't think you do.
You seem like that classic cuck that apologizes profusely for America in hostel bars on your college study abroad. You were so caught up this time you failed to grasp the reality is that this isn't purely America vs. China. This is mankind vs. the oppression of a free society and systemic persecution of minority groups.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 1:22 pm to gizmoflak
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Had Silver decided to vigorously back Morey and immediately pull all league business out of China in response to their anti-free speech bullying, the NBA brand would have enjoyed worldwide acclaim.
Except in their second biggest market.
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The money lost from China could have been made up on boosted sales and exposure in America, Europe, and other parts of the world.
Thats a joke
Posted on 10/10/19 at 1:27 pm to teke184
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China is going to make a hard demand for Morey’s job and an apology.
They already could have done that if they genuinely wanted to. There's a reason why a lot of this is posturing without full demands and/or unilateral pulling out.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:04 pm to Suntiger
Calling China a communist country is the most simplistic thing I’ve ever heard. Authoritarian? Yep. Not free? Yep. But I’ve seen some Randian shite in China that would make the most avowed Austrian blush. Money is king over there. And more and more of it. I’d consider China to be more corrupt than anything. Also stop posting on your made in China smartphones if you’re so damn mad.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:05 pm to RedRifle
Aren't you the dude who loves Russia and posting about them?
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:11 pm to RedRifle
They're a communist country bud Just because they may not be 100% pure communist at this point does not negate that statement in any way.
To do so would basically require telling China as a country to get bent regarding trade.
Just because they may not be 100% pure communist at this point does not negate that statement in any way. quote:No shite, welcome to communism where money and towing the party line gets you influence.
China to be more corrupt than anything.
quote:What's next, going to tell me not to buy anything made in China? Welcome to the results of our trade being so heavily intertwined. People are still capable of boycotting and making a statement in a variety of ways, but some things aren't being cut out for sheer practicality reasons.
Also stop posting on your made in China smartphones if you’re so damn mad.
To do so would basically require telling China as a country to get bent regarding trade.
This post was edited on 10/10/19 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:13 pm to Kodar
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People are still capable of boycotting and making a statement in a variety of ways, but some things aren't being cut out for sheer practicality reasons.
gotta love it. keep playing yourself on the reg dude
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:14 pm to Mr Perfect
quote:you just going to keep saying that rather than providing a valid counter point? You bailing on the other thread because you made a complete arse of yourself? Just keep digging that hole
keep playing yourself on the reg dude
Posted on 10/10/19 at 2:14 pm to Kodar
I don't bail on threads dude. there are like 15 china threads on here per day
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