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re: The defense of the Red Sox front office re: Devers makes no sense

Posted on 6/17/25 at 4:42 pm to
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 4:42 pm to
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but Devers isn't some angel here and contributed a lot to his own problems.


you either fricked up here or you fricked up giving him the deal you did 18 short months ago.

either way, the problem is the Sox front office
This post was edited on 6/17/25 at 4:46 pm
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 5:00 pm to
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you either fricked up here or you fricked up giving him the deal you did 18 short months ago. either way, the problem is the Sox front office


The front office now is not the front office that gave him the deal two years ago
This post was edited on 6/17/25 at 5:04 pm
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 5:05 pm to
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you either fricked up here or you fricked up giving him the deal you did 18 short months ago.

either way, the problem is the Sox front office


This is infantiling Devers. He's a grown arse man who almost assuredly told the front office he would do the work to be a better fielder.
This post was edited on 6/17/25 at 5:06 pm
Posted by TigerFan91
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 5:13 pm to
lol Devers just said he do anything to help the Giants and Melvin said he’d be at first base at some point.

What a cocksucker
Posted by JakeFromStateFarm
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 5:16 pm to
As a Yankee fan, I’m just glad he’s not in Boston anymore. Dude was a bonafide Yankee killer
Posted by JetsetNuggs
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 5:16 pm to
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he’s not a first baseman


He’s a bad defender so he’s not a third baseman either
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 5:21 pm to
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lol Devers just said he do anything to help the Giants


why wouldn’t he? they conducted themselves normally and, you know, asked him before discussing with the media.
Posted by High C
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 5:26 pm to
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why wouldn’t he? they conducted themselves normally and, you know, asked him before discussing with the media.


I understand and agree with some of what you’ve said in this thread. Neither party is innocent, but ultimately it just seems like you’re calling for more player coddling.
Posted by TigerFan91
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 5:27 pm to
Mate he got 300 million dollars to play for the org. They asked him to try first base and he said no. You really think if he worked there and it wasn’t going to work out they would have put him out there to embarrass himself and make their team worse?

Like everyone has said both parties fricked this, but shite man it’s okay to say Devers is an immature a-hole and carries some of the blame pie
This post was edited on 6/17/25 at 5:29 pm
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 5:29 pm to
Like the earlier poster said, Devers is also not a third baseman
Posted by TigerFan91
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 5:34 pm to
Right he probably would have been a bit of a goof at first base too. not saying he’d be good.

I think if he earnestly gave it a shot and tried to work there, even if they decided it wasn’t going to work, a lot of this kind of just goes away

But the more I think about it probably not until Breslow went away. There is very clearly not much love lost between the player and him
This post was edited on 6/17/25 at 5:37 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 5:39 pm to
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but ultimately it just seems like you’re calling for more player coddling.


i don’t see it as coddling i see it as having a professional organization that respects its employees as human beings. You don’t have to have a therapy session with the guy but you should a) plan/communicate in a straightforward way with your star player and b) give him what he needs to be successful if you’re asking him to make a major professional change.

i don’t know Devers from Adam, he could be a huge a-hole for all i know, but this is a flaw with teams in all sports and a big flaw with this one in particular as of late.

and don’t give me this stuff about it’s a different front office now because the ownership hasn’t changed. If you’re John Henry you need to be aware and manage what’s going on with your major investments, this isn’t the 4th outfielder we’re talking about.

Bottom line, they made this trade because their feelings got hurt and their egos wouldn’t let them deal with the problem, and now you’ve set the franchise back in a major way for the second time in half a decade.
This post was edited on 6/17/25 at 5:41 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 5:42 pm to
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he got 300 million dollars to play for the org.


when you invest 300 million in a player you should talk to him about directly and honestly about a position change before you bring it up to the media.
This post was edited on 6/17/25 at 5:45 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 5:44 pm to
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a lot of this kind of just goes away


making an effort only applies to the player apparently
Posted by TigerFan91
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 5:44 pm to
And the $300 million they gave him should help his hurt feelings a little bit
Posted by TigerFan91
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 5:45 pm to
Yea for sure. FO def didn’t make an effort to make the team better by going out and signing Bregman and trading for Crochet to help build something around the star player to win

And giving him the biggest contract in organization history.
This post was edited on 6/17/25 at 5:46 pm
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 5:47 pm to
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making an effort only applies to the player apparently


You are saying the same thing just on the other side.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 5:47 pm to
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And the $300 million they gave him should help his hurt feelings a little bit


you invested all this money into the player, doesn’t it behoove you to have management actually, you know, manage the player and the situation to a positive outcome?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 5:48 pm to
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You are saying the same thing just on the other side.


Devers has been playing and playing well. It’s not like he said i’m not going out there or faked an injury or something.
Posted by TigerFan91
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 5:50 pm to
The player was given a massive investment that changes the course of his family’s lives for generations and generations. Does it not behoove the player to actually, you know, live up to the contract and the situation to a positive outcome?
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