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re: The biggest rule change in NBA history happened in 2001.. and many don't realize
Posted on 5/26/16 at 5:58 pm to WestCoastAg
Posted on 5/26/16 at 5:58 pm to WestCoastAg
If I could create a time machine, instead of going back in time myself, I'd send modern players back to the 70s, 80s, and 90s, and then go get the older legends and slap them in today's game. That is a debate I wish we could settle.
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 6:01 pm to slackster
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If I could create a time machine, instead of going back in time myself, I'd send modern players back to the 70s, 80s, and 90s, and then go get the older legends and slap them in today's game.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 6:14 pm to PrimeTime Money
Easily the best rule change in sports history. What a stupid frickin rule that was
Posted on 5/26/16 at 6:23 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:Hell no people don't realize it. Some do but are too married to their views to care. This is the second long thread PrimeTime has started about this topic and I've made a very similar thread as well.
Easily the single biggest rule change in the modern NBA.
Can you imagine what guys like Lebron and KD would do with their length(and Lebron's strength) if they could get ONE guy isolated that close to the basket? My god they'd never stop scoring.
Who the hell would be able to stay in front of Russ if he had that much room with late help?
This is one of the reasons why it's so frustrating to argue with people who think defense is such shite nowadays. Defenses are better and more evolved, while pace is down. I believe Lebron's numbers would be significantly better if he played under these rules.
Oh wait, I forgot about the devastating hand checking
Lebron isn't fast or strong enough to deal with that like all those monsters did back then. This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 5/26/16 at 6:23 pm to PrimeTime Money
Did they actually enforce this rule? I want to see a clip of them calling that
Posted on 5/26/16 at 6:24 pm to PrimeTime Money
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The biggest rule change in NBA history happened in 2001.. and many don't realize
They don't realize it because they are relatively new posters who haven't lived through your three previous versions of this same thread.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 6:26 pm to ReauxlTide222
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people don't realize it. Some do but are too married views to care. This is the second long thread PrimeTime has started about this topic and I've made a very similar thread as well.
Can you imagine what guys like Lebron and KD would do with their length(and Lebron's strength) if they could get ONE guy isolated that close to the basket? My god they'd never stop scoring.
Who the hell would be able to stay in front of Russ if he had that much room with late help?
This is one of the reasons why it's so frustrating to argue with people who think defense is such shite nowadays. Defenses are better and more evolved, while pace is down. I believe Lebron's numbers would be significantly better if he played under these rules.
Oh wait, I forgot about the devastating hand checking Lebron isn't fast or strong enough to deal with that like all those monsters did back then.
Well said.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 6:33 pm to Large Farva
quote:Yes they did. Every game there were illegal defense calls.
Did they actually enforce this rule? I want to see a clip of them calling that
Centers used to game the system by randomly running to the 3 point line unexpectedly and their man wouldn't follow them because they wouldn't expect the center to be all the way out there and didn't realize he darted out there. And the center would point at his man and tell the ref to call illegal defense.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 6:35 pm to TeddyPadillac
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this is the biggest pile of horse shite.
Were you prefacing your own post? If so, I completely agree.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 6:36 pm to PrimeTime Money
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Centers used to game the system by randomly running to the 3 point line unexpectedly and their man wouldn't follow them because they wouldn't expect the center to be all the way out there and didn't realize he darted out there. And the center would point at his man and tell the ref to call illegal defense.
That was so annoying
Posted on 5/26/16 at 6:37 pm to Large Farva
quote:There's a great YouTube video, probably 15 minutes long, with example after example of it. Stuff like back to back clips of MJ and Kobe with the ball in the same spot, and attempting the same move/path to the basket. MJ makes a dude look like a fool(naturally), while Kobe is stopped dead in his tracks because there are 4 defenses between him and the basket.
Did they actually enforce this rule? I want to see a clip of them calling that
Posted on 5/26/16 at 6:38 pm to PrimeTime Money
there was nothing worse than that peak era of "isolation" play in the late 90's.
Origins of illegal defense.
The new wave of coaches made defenses sophisticated enough by 1981 that the league created an “illegal defense” rule to open up the paint. Here’s how referee Ed Rush explained it to SI: “We were becoming a jump-shot league, so we went to the coaches and said, ‘You’ve screwed the game with all your great defenses. Now fix it.’ And they did. The new rule will open up the middle and give the great players room to move. People like Julius Erving and David Thompson who used to beat their own defensive man and then still have to pull up for a jump shot because they were being double-teamed, should have an extra four or five feet to move around in. And that’s all those guys need.”
And then Jordan thrived on this...same with Magic and going to the basket became the norm.
Origins of illegal defense.
The new wave of coaches made defenses sophisticated enough by 1981 that the league created an “illegal defense” rule to open up the paint. Here’s how referee Ed Rush explained it to SI: “We were becoming a jump-shot league, so we went to the coaches and said, ‘You’ve screwed the game with all your great defenses. Now fix it.’ And they did. The new rule will open up the middle and give the great players room to move. People like Julius Erving and David Thompson who used to beat their own defensive man and then still have to pull up for a jump shot because they were being double-teamed, should have an extra four or five feet to move around in. And that’s all those guys need.”
And then Jordan thrived on this...same with Magic and going to the basket became the norm.
This post was edited on 5/26/16 at 6:40 pm
Posted on 5/26/16 at 6:41 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:Can you imagine how much Lebron, Harden, and CP3 would be jumping up and down pointing their hearts out? Lebron would be constantly running and pointing
would point at his man and tell the ref to call illegal defense.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 6:54 pm to PrimeTime Money
The one real counter to this that while not totally cancelling out how much easier this made 1v1 play is hand-checking. Hard Hand-checks being legal cut down on drives to the basket.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 6:57 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Hell no people don't realize it. Some do but are too married to their views to care. This is the second long thread PrimeTime has started about this topic and I've made a very similar thread as well.
Can you imagine what guys like Lebron and KD would do with their length(and Lebron's strength) if they could get ONE guy isolated that close to the basket? My god they'd never stop scoring.
Who the hell would be able to stay in front of Russ if he had that much room with late help?
This is one of the reasons why it's so frustrating to argue with people who think defense is such shite nowadays. Defenses are better and more evolved, while pace is down. I believe Lebron's numbers would be significantly better if he played under these rules.
Oh wait, I forgot about the devastating hand checking Lebron isn't fast or strong enough to deal with that like all those monsters did back then.
Insert "my man gif".
The handchecking shite is hysterical. Any time someone mentions that when in these "modern basketball is shite" or "imagine what Jordan would have done" discussions I just end the conversation there. It's not worth my time if they have no clue what the game used to be.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 7:01 pm to TeddyPadillac
Good luck Kobe. I'm pretty sure this would called an illegal defense
Posted on 5/26/16 at 7:14 pm to FootballNostradamus
quote:Think of some of the guys who played back in the day who survived hand checking and had successful careers. Were they Monstars compared Russ and company? Were they immortal? Why is it that guys now would die on the court if they played in other eras?
The handchecking shite is hysterical
Posted on 5/26/16 at 7:21 pm to ReauxlTide222
The offense at the end of games was easy.... Give it to your superstar/best player... And tell everyone else to get out of the way.
Won or lost with your alpha.
Lebronnie would have hated it.
Won or lost with your alpha.
Lebronnie would have hated it.
Posted on 5/26/16 at 7:25 pm to navy
ha ha ha 
Posted on 5/26/16 at 7:35 pm to PrimeTime Money
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PrimeTime Money
OP, if I could give you 100 upvotes I would. You successfully started a thread comparing NBA eras with rationale analysis and proof to back it up.
Haven't read the rest of the thread yet, but OP was so well done I had to give praise.
Fingers crossed I don't read a bunch of nostalgic bullshite explaining why superstar A or B from today couldn't hack it in the 90's.
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