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re: The ATL Thread 5/19 - Bummer released, Drake to the IL
Posted on 5/19/26 at 11:30 am to td01241
Posted on 5/19/26 at 11:30 am to td01241
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Ozzie is having his best season since 2023 and its not even remotely close.
We're not even 50 games into the season yet and he had a really, really good April, but he currently has the worst OPS among regular starters in May.
It's a question of which version is closer to the real Ozzie in 2026.
This post was edited on 5/19/26 at 11:33 am
Posted on 5/19/26 at 11:32 am to Broski
Two things can be true at the same time.
What you just said and what I just said arent mutually exclusive.
This is mostly because of how bad he was in 24 and 25.
There is no way he is going to match is 2023 season though it would appear
I just dont think you can say he is cooked or washed when he is at least playing baseball somewhat recognizable to his best ever season, 2023.
What you just said and what I just said arent mutually exclusive.
This is mostly because of how bad he was in 24 and 25.
There is no way he is going to match is 2023 season though it would appear
I just dont think you can say he is cooked or washed when he is at least playing baseball somewhat recognizable to his best ever season, 2023.
This post was edited on 5/19/26 at 11:33 am
Posted on 5/19/26 at 11:34 am to td01241
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What you just said
I haven't said anything definitive on Ozzie, just pointing out his stats.
Remains to be seen which of these two months is really him for the rest of the season. But I can see why people would think what he's doing in May is more likely to occur again than what he did in April, based on his offensive numbers the last two seasons.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 11:36 am to Broski
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But I can see why people would think what he's doing in May is more likely to occur again than what he did in April, based on his offensive numbers the last two seasons.
This is fair.
I still maintain my stance I have held since 2024. He should quit being a switch hitter and bat right handed
Posted on 5/19/26 at 1:09 pm to td01241
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Riley has been one of if not the best hitter on the team after Drake over the last 10-14 days
Austin has hit .231 with .759 OPS last 7 days .245 and .744 OPS last 15 days, so if he's been the best hitter that's more a sign of how bad our offense has been rather than Riley being good. He's still been bad, just not worst hitter in baseball type bad.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 1:28 pm to auyushu
I was more talking about his underlying stats like the two I mentioned barrel rate and hard hit % over that time period. You can sort it on fangraphs by 7 days or 14 days. Its in a very high %.
Best in terms of effectiveness over that time period is obviously Drake then theres a group of maybe 5 players who its all really a wash tbh.
The point I was trying to make is his metrics point to a player moving in the right direction
Ive made this point before but its also a really good sign he is pulling the ball with power again
His expected OPS over that time period is also a good bit higher too not that it matters to much since its a results game. But in one of his games he pulled a HR in his seocond AB his first AB he hit a deep fly ball to right field warning track thats a HR in 23 ballparks
Fangraphas currently has him expected to hit 30 HR. So what you are saying sounds pretty sub par the metrics and analytics paint a different picture.
He still has elite bat speed. And for the season in total he is 81% in exit velo and 79% in hard hit, which as ive pointed out is trending upward over the time period we are speaking of. They basically project him to be a pretty low batting average power hitter by years end.
Basically someone currently with a similar stat profile to 2025 zach neto and 2021 teoscar hernandez. Which while not worth his contract, if he ends the season hitting .240 with 30 HR I think we would all take that
Best in terms of effectiveness over that time period is obviously Drake then theres a group of maybe 5 players who its all really a wash tbh.
The point I was trying to make is his metrics point to a player moving in the right direction
Ive made this point before but its also a really good sign he is pulling the ball with power again
His expected OPS over that time period is also a good bit higher too not that it matters to much since its a results game. But in one of his games he pulled a HR in his seocond AB his first AB he hit a deep fly ball to right field warning track thats a HR in 23 ballparks
Fangraphas currently has him expected to hit 30 HR. So what you are saying sounds pretty sub par the metrics and analytics paint a different picture.
He still has elite bat speed. And for the season in total he is 81% in exit velo and 79% in hard hit, which as ive pointed out is trending upward over the time period we are speaking of. They basically project him to be a pretty low batting average power hitter by years end.
Basically someone currently with a similar stat profile to 2025 zach neto and 2021 teoscar hernandez. Which while not worth his contract, if he ends the season hitting .240 with 30 HR I think we would all take that
This post was edited on 5/19/26 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 5/19/26 at 2:06 pm to RedPants
quote:He's slashing .246/.283/.491 over the last 15 games.
non existent Riley.
Not awesome, but also not non-existent.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 2:08 pm to Murph4HOF
That guys post is the one that made me go full schidzo and launch into full on essays about how, in reality, the world isnt on fire because we got blown out by the marlins
Did people just memory hole the dodgers and cubs series?
Did people just memory hole the dodgers and cubs series?
This post was edited on 5/19/26 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 5/19/26 at 2:11 pm to RummelTiger
Yeah he had to go.
Its weird because at on point Bummer was really good, especially if you needed a guy to come in and get a ground ball.
Then he just totally lost it
It is absolutely critical we acquire a high leverage lefty and also a power bat OF at the trade deadline as a baseline. We need to and should add more than that theres no excuse not to. This team is 100% in a world series window.
Waldrep should be able to make some starts in June and we need to hope he is good. Focus your trade package around sending him, Owen Murphy, and a few of our high upside lottery tickets.
Its weird because at on point Bummer was really good, especially if you needed a guy to come in and get a ground ball.
Then he just totally lost it
It is absolutely critical we acquire a high leverage lefty and also a power bat OF at the trade deadline as a baseline. We need to and should add more than that theres no excuse not to. This team is 100% in a world series window.
Waldrep should be able to make some starts in June and we need to hope he is good. Focus your trade package around sending him, Owen Murphy, and a few of our high upside lottery tickets.
This post was edited on 5/19/26 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 5/19/26 at 2:14 pm to td01241
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Then he just totally lost it
Shoulder issue last year had a lot to do with it.
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It is absolutely critical we acquire a high leverage lefty and also a power bat OF at the trade deadline as a baseline.
I'd prioritize another starter over an OF bat, personally.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 2:17 pm to VADawg
Do you agree we should be focusing on sending these guys out?
I chose them because they offer us the opportunity at the best return most likely of people we would be willing to part with
quote:
Waldrep should be able to make some starts in June and we need to hope he is good. Focus your trade package around sending him, Owen Murphy, and a few of our high upside lottery tickets.
I chose them because they offer us the opportunity at the best return most likely of people we would be willing to part with
Posted on 5/19/26 at 2:24 pm to td01241
I say non existent instead of underperforming and there’s a breakdown over semantics. Goodness gracious. Riley has sucked this season. There.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 2:29 pm to td01241
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Do you agree we should be focusing on sending these guys out?
Yeah, you are me have been beating the "trade Waldrep while his value is high" drum for awhile now. I still hold that opinion.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 2:30 pm to RedPants
He was absolutely awful for a stretch at the beginning of the season hitting without average or slugging.
Since then he has not sucked. He still isn’t really hitting for average but he is hitting for slugging which is why he’s projected to hit 30 HR. He is also the best baserunner on the team. I haven’t checked every person on the roster but I wouldn’t be surprised if he is the only one in the positive in baseruning run value added where he is 88th percentile one of the best in baseball.
Defensively he has basically been a wash. His range is not good but he has a strong arm so he is really good at making plays like slow choppers where he has to charge the ball and gun someone down.
He also has a faster sprint speed than Michael Harris which doesn’t have anything to do with this I just think it is funny.
It’s a tell of two different pieces of the season for Riley. He is trending up
Since then he has not sucked. He still isn’t really hitting for average but he is hitting for slugging which is why he’s projected to hit 30 HR. He is also the best baserunner on the team. I haven’t checked every person on the roster but I wouldn’t be surprised if he is the only one in the positive in baseruning run value added where he is 88th percentile one of the best in baseball.
Defensively he has basically been a wash. His range is not good but he has a strong arm so he is really good at making plays like slow choppers where he has to charge the ball and gun someone down.
He also has a faster sprint speed than Michael Harris which doesn’t have anything to do with this I just think it is funny.
It’s a tell of two different pieces of the season for Riley. He is trending up
This post was edited on 5/19/26 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 5/19/26 at 2:32 pm to VADawg
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Yeah, you are me have been beating the "trade Waldrep while his value is high" drum for awhile now. I still hold that opinion
Yes and we got flamed for it
Posted on 5/19/26 at 2:46 pm to td01241
I am hoping that it just wasn't a case that the stars were lined up perfectly in April and that the last week or so more accurately reflects what kind of team we are..
With regard to Kim, he has to sit. I would roll Mateo's arse out there for the next week just to see if things get better around the 2B bag and better offensive production
With regard to Kim, he has to sit. I would roll Mateo's arse out there for the next week just to see if things get better around the 2B bag and better offensive production
This post was edited on 5/19/26 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 5/19/26 at 2:46 pm to td01241
Posted on 5/19/26 at 2:48 pm to 257WBY
I like this lineup actually.
We need to find ways to get Ronald DH spots when and however we can and that azocar guy has shown himself to be sort of an elite defensive RF
We need to find ways to get Ronald DH spots when and however we can and that azocar guy has shown himself to be sort of an elite defensive RF
Posted on 5/19/26 at 2:48 pm to 257WBY
We are going to lose more than win with those 3 at the bottom of the lineup
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