re: The ATL Thread: 2021 World Champion Atlanta Braves Offseason Thread

Joc officially declined his side of the option. Braves would have likely declined their side as well, but he is now a free agent officially.

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And I’d think the Duvall is the more likely of the 3

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We still have him under contractual control via arbitration for one more year if we elect to go that route.

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***that feeling you get when you put in a lot of thought and effort into a couple of long-arse posts with what you thought at the time were really good points, only to come back several hours later to find just 1 single (and likely pity or unintentional) upvote with no responses.**

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That's the life of being a long winded poster. Don't worry, I'm the same way. The weird thing is that when I'm actually speaking to people in person, I'm the opposite. Not big on talking a lot. Maybe because most conversations that pop up in person tend to be pointless small talk, and I have no interest in that.

Someone posted a video of the parade flying through Atlanta and someone said "They got Ruggs in the driver's seat".

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Jon Heyman ( ) said on MLB Network Radio that the feeling around the sport/in Atlanta is that Rosario will be the top priority for the Braves among the outgoing guys outside of Freddie.

Thinks Braves will go in to the season with Pache/Duvall/Rosario in the OF with Ozuna joining after serving a suspension and Acuña 40-50 games in.

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I can see Rosario being the top priority with outgoing players outside of Freddie, though I certainly don't trust anything Heyman says.

But why does he think Acuna will miss 40 to 50 games? He seems to be walking fine now, and he has 5 months before opening day to continue healing and rehabbing his strength. Where is Heyman getting the impression that he'll miss that much time?

Edit- also, you know MLB is going to suspend Ozuna, regardless of the legal outcome, so I doubt he'll play next year.

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That's the life of being a long winded poster.

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Don’t I know it. But a well placed “that’s what she said” will garner 30 upvotes in 30 minutes.

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Don't worry, I'm the same way

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Except your posts suck, and mine are actually good.


I kid. I kid. I know a I can get quite verbose and usually realize a few sentences in that it’s going to be way too long and ain’t nobody got time to read all that shite.

I could give a shite about up or down votes, on some topics I just like to engage. I like to tell myself that those posts are just so good, there’s nothing really left to argue or add. :lol:

Oh well, there’s the first fall chill in the air. A drink in my hand. A football game on my radio and tv. My children are safe. And the Atlanta Braves are fricking World Champions. Damn right.

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Don’t I know it. But a well placed “that’s what she said” will garner 30 upvotes in 30 minutes.

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Yep, every time.

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Except your posts suck, and mine are actually good.


I kid. I kid. I know a I can get quite verbose and usually realize a few sentences in that it’s going to be way too long and ain’t nobody got time to read all that shite.

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I'm glad I read the part where you said you were kidding, because I had already tied the rope around my neck, and was about to kick the chair out from underneath me... Phew!

But seriously, I know what you're saying. When I'm interested in a topic, I often have a lot to say, and so I just get it out. I have little expectation for a response if I go beyond two medium sized paragraphs, lol.

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Oh well, there’s the first fall chill in the air. A drink in my hand. A football game on my radio and tv. My children are safe. And the Atlanta Braves are fricking World Champions. Damn right.

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Agreed on all points.

He wasn’t including Duvall I don’t think. Spoke as if it’s a foregone conclusion he will be offered arbitration. Duvall talked about next year during his speech today too fwiw.

Heyman said Rosario being the only lefty among Pache, Duvall, Acuña and Ozuna makes him the clear priority along with his superior bat to ball skills.

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As he should be. I love what Soler did for us, but his career suggests that is not sustainable.

Now, if you think the real Soler is the 2019 version or the 2021 Braves version, you make sure he doesn't go anywhere.

It would be really weird to let Duvall walk two years in a row, but I think Rosario and Soler would be better investments if we can afford to keep them both.

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I actually think what he did for us is quite sustainable. Because it wasn't like it was just a hot streak, but he actually improved his plate discipline dramatically. I don't think we can underestimate how important it is that he's working with our team of hitting instructors. They have consistently gotten the best out guys who came from elsewhere with major holes in their approach. I think this, along with getting out of that huge park and losing culture in Kansas City (outside of that brief run they had before Soler was there) has and will continue to help him.

So I would love to keep him. But Rosario being a more sure thing and being a quality defender (when he's not losing the ball in the lights) makes him the better bet of the two, if they can't keep both. I'm expecting the universal DH to be here next year, where Soler could DH IF they keep both those guys. There's so many possibilities.

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With what Ozuna pled down to and him already sitting half a season there’s not much precedent for a full season punishment. 50 seems like the max he will get to me. Maybe an outside shot at 81.

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Oh, I'm in agreement with you in the practical sense. But we keep seeing these woke commissioners across all sports upping the ante to make a point. And given the accusations, and knowing how accusations almost always take precedent over evidence or convictions, I don't think Manfred cares what he pled down to.

I hope I'm wrong. But I expect a major overreaction from Manfred. And after that, do the Braves want him playing for them? I don't know where they stand on that. I have yet to see the supposed video of him choking his wife, but if it actually exists and the Braves have seen it, I don't know if they'll be forgiving or not. I have my doubts that it was as bad as the police initially said it was, if the DA was willing to offer a plea deal.