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re: The ATL Thread: 2021 World Champion Atlanta Braves Offseason Thread

Posted on 3/30/22 at 12:31 pm to
Posted by auyushu
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 3/30/22 at 12:31 pm to
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Lets just agree that they performed outside of expectations in the playoffs and move on. I think we can all at least agree on that.


And playoff performance is completely random and not predictable, so your point is meaningless. The sample sizes are too small to be statistically relevant. Bonds for example was never great in the postseason, Freddie tended to choke in the postseason until last year. Baseball is full of amazing players who struggled in their postseason careers, and dudes like Mark Lemke who were magically good hitters in the postseason.
Posted by TrussvilleTide
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Posted on 3/30/22 at 12:32 pm to
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And playoff performance is completely random and not predictable, so your point is meaningless. The sample sizes are too small to be statistically relevant. Bonds for example was never great in the postseason, Freddie tended to choke in the postseason until last year. Baseball is full of amazing players who struggled in their postseason careers, and dudes like Mark Lemke who were magically good hitters in the postseason.




So beating the Dodgers in one series is meaningless and does not mean that we have passed them as a franchise?

Looks like the chickens have come home to roost. I've converted one!

This is what CUMMING full circle feels like ladies and gentlemen, my goal is accomplished.

Thank you and good night.
This post was edited on 3/30/22 at 12:34 pm
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
9980 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 12:41 pm to
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beating the Dodgers in one series is meaningless and does not mean that we have passed them as a franchise?


You might want to learn how to post on a message board, since at no point did I claim this. We do however have the best chance of anyone in our division to win our division, and we stack up well with the Dodgers in a 7 game series, which is all that matters really.

You definitely have succeeded in making yourself look like an idiot in this thread though, congrats.
Posted by TrussvilleTide
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Posted on 3/30/22 at 12:42 pm to
I mean I don't care if you said it or not, I just wanted to goat one of you into making this point and I did it. Peace loser
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/30/22 at 12:44 pm to
This is all such a dumb argument, because you can just as easily say that the Dodgers got lucky in 2020. If the Braves have Soroka, they win the NLCS in 5 or 6 games and are playing the Rays in the World Series.

You could also argue that the Braves got lucky as hell that Bryse Wilson pitched the game of his life that series.

Point being, luck is a huge factor in the playoffs. So to act like it was an anomaly that the Braves won the World Series on luck last season is stupid and lame.
This post was edited on 3/30/22 at 12:45 pm
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
9980 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 12:50 pm to
So you are a twelve year old intellectually and we can safely ignore all your posts going forward, gotcha.
Posted by TrussvilleTide
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Posted on 3/30/22 at 12:55 pm to
You talk to 12 year olds online? And let one goat you into saying exactly what they wanted you to say?

Thats pretty cringe.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 1:52 pm to
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Reading this, I feel like SteelersBravesDawg is arguing with his evil twin.


This post was edited on 3/30/22 at 1:53 pm
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
Member since Sep 2011
4384 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 2:10 pm to
The dodgers?

Who gives a frick or is scared of a team that didn’t even win their division last year?
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 3/30/22 at 3:52 pm to
Max Fried named Opening Day starter for the 2nd straight year.
Posted by DirtyDawg
President of the East Cobb Snobs
Member since Aug 2013
15551 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 5:00 pm to
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Max Fried named Opening Day starter for the 2nd straight year.



Aside from him just being great, this is what's right. Gotta let the Game 6 winner be the guy to take the mound after the banner is raised/unveiled.

God, I just got so hype thinking about him becoming a cyborg after he got his ankle gored.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 5:13 pm to
I thought it was broken.
Posted by DirtyDawg
President of the East Cobb Snobs
Member since Aug 2013
15551 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 5:35 pm to
Until he got back up, I was convinced that was our "ATL Cursed" moment.

Missed the out, runners on base, and the starter going down with an injury in the 1st.

Legendary performance
Posted by DirtyDawg
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 3/30/22 at 5:35 pm to
edit: Double post cause my wifi is dookie
This post was edited on 3/30/22 at 5:36 pm
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 6:04 pm to
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Until he got back up, I was convinced that was our "ATL Cursed" moment.


Curses don't exist.

You're either well-run or you're not. You either rise above it or you don't.
Posted by AlbertMeansWell
Member since Sep 2013
5565 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 5:04 pm to
What are y'alls go to Baseball sites? (Braves and MLB)

I lost my damn bookmarks folder and I've been building it back but I feel like I'm missing some sites that a person would go to every day for news. Thanks
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 6:13 pm to
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After starting last season near the middle of MLB teams in player payroll, the Braves will open this season among the top 10 spenders and intend to stay there, the team’s top executive said.

Braves Chairman Terry McGuirk discussed payroll plans, the departure of Freddie Freeman and other topics in an interview this week with The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Here’s some of what he said:

McGuirk on the payroll: We started last year with the 14th highest payroll (of the 30 teams), and it wasn’t too long ago that we were in the low 20s. Our goal -- and the philosophy of what we tried to build here -- was to get to a top-10 payroll as quickly as we could within the normal growth cycles. And we are there.

This year, we believe we will be a top-10 payroll, and I’d like to march up that list, too. But I’ll take little steps before I can take a few bigger steps. We are not No. 10 in payroll; we probably are going to be No. 8 this year. It hasn’t all settled in yet (with final opening-day roster decisions yet to be made).

Our vision back when we moved here (to Truist Park) was that, as the fans embraced this, as our team began to win, as what we were hoping would happen happened, (it would) give us more economic means to put back into this whole operation.


The economic reality is … that we can compete for a championship every year. That is what our goal is, too. I don’t see anything taking us off this (path) for the foreseeable future.

McGuirk on Freeman’s departure: I love Freddie like a son. I know him very, very well. It was difficult. I think if we could all turn back the clock and Freddie could maybe take more charge of what happened and not put it in the hands of his representatives.

We’ve had to close the book on Freddie and start thinking about how we win games this year. But as a memory, he’s going to be very special for us. We’re going to celebrate him when he comes back into town, and we’ll always love him.


McGuirk on general manager Alex Anthopoulos’ work: I would dare say he may be the best in the business now at this job. I know a lot about every franchise, I know how they operate, I see the personnel, and I don’t think there is anybody who can do the job like Alex can.

It’s a very hard job. It’s a 24/7 beat where you’re constantly thinking and rejecting and trying to understand. It’s a calculus question because the market is constantly changing, and your needs change as there are injuries and performance lapses or excellent performances. He and I talk probably an hour every day. … I think the fan allegiance to him is not by mistake.

McGuirk on Truist Park and The Battery Atlanta: We’re on this glide slope of growth here in the new stadium and The Battery. (Last season) was sort of the first culmination of what we actually had planned, of our vision. … I can still see Fox sportscasters marveling at the incredible sea of fans in The Battery (during the World Series) and remarking they’d never seen anything like it. … We set the stage for it, we built this house for it, and the fans responded.


Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 6:17 pm to
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(Note: By the AJC’s calculation, the Braves’ opening-day payroll projects to be approximately $173 million, although the figure will fluctuate depending on remaining roster decisions and eventually the results of delayed salary arbitration cases. The payroll is up from $130 million at the start of last season, but still far below the biggest-spending teams: the Los Angeles Dodgers at around $275 million and the New York Mets at around $260 million.)


This post was edited on 3/31/22 at 6:50 pm
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41214 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 6:27 pm to
$207M is just the luxury tax payroll. Not the actual payroll. Actual OD payroll will be between $170 and $180. Actual exact figures won’t be known until arb hearings in the summer.

Luxury tax payroll uses every player’s AAV rather than their actual 2022 payroll.

Olson for example is only being paid $15M this year but the AAV of his deal is $21M.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 6:49 pm to
Gotcha. Thanks.

So the AJC actually is correct. Shocker.
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