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Posted on 11/27/24 at 3:40 pm to VADawg
And is non-existent in the playoffs.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:05 pm to K9
I actually would rather the Braves slightly overpay on a two year deal with Max Scherzer. Prior to last season the guy was always durable. He’s got the upside of an experienced post season starter - which I think is more valuable than eating regular season innings.
MLBTR projects him on a one-year, $16 million deal. Maybe offer him 2-$26 with an opt-out.
MLBTR projects him on a one-year, $16 million deal. Maybe offer him 2-$26 with an opt-out.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:06 pm to lsusa
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actually would rather the Braves slightly overpay on a two year deal with Max Scherze
lol frick no
Posted on 11/27/24 at 6:37 pm to Broski
You don’t pay either Fried or Scherzer. Neither are worth what they would get. If you want the Braves to spend a boat load of money then you better hope they go after Sasaki. He’s the only pitcher who has a real chance to be a positive return on the investment.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 8:12 pm to RunningJacket
We can only offer sasaki 6.2 mil.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 8:19 pm to lsusa
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I actually would rather the Braves slightly overpay on a two year deal with Max Scherzer
One year, maybe. Two? Hell no.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 8:24 pm to RunningJacket
If they are going to offer a multi-year deal on a pitcher, it'll probably be Eovaldi.
The more realistic option IMO is offering a one-year (maybe have an option for a 2nd year) prove it deal on Shane Beiber or Buehler.
The more realistic option IMO is offering a one-year (maybe have an option for a 2nd year) prove it deal on Shane Beiber or Buehler.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 8:25 pm to RunningJacket
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If you want the Braves to spend a boat load of money then you better hope they go after Sasaki. He’s the only pitcher who has a real chance to be a positive return on the investment.
Stop the madness
Posted on 11/27/24 at 10:19 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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One year, maybe. Two? Hell no.
To clarify, the only reason I suggest the 2-year deal is to get creative with the money for luxury tax purposes.
I’d be fine giving Scherzer the $16 mil for one season that MLBTR projects.
Posted on 11/27/24 at 10:41 pm to lsusa
Scherzer has been an average to below average pitcher when healthy and trending downward while also getting older.
Signing him would be nothing more than a "name signing" that unserious teams do just to drive up ticket sales in the early months.
We're not that.
Signing him would be nothing more than a "name signing" that unserious teams do just to drive up ticket sales in the early months.
We're not that.
Posted on 11/28/24 at 7:40 am to Broski
I’d take either Bieber or Buehler all day long over Fried. Fried is done. He’ll give a solid start every 5 starts while the other 4 starts are a #3 or #4 starter. We watched it all season. He isn’t fooling hitters anymore with his curve.
Posted on 11/28/24 at 7:57 am to RunningJacket
Posted on 11/28/24 at 8:20 am to RunningJacket
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Fried is done. He’ll give a solid start every 5 starts while the other 4 starts are a #3 or #4 starter. We watched it all season. He isn’t fooling hitters anymore with his curve
The ramblings of a mad man.
Posted on 11/28/24 at 9:14 am to Broski
quote:Same could’ve been said about Sale. If AA thinks Scherzer has something left in the tank it’s a possibility.
Scherzer has been an average to below average pitcher when healthy and trending downward while also getting older.
Posted on 11/28/24 at 12:53 pm to Stastny
Any pitcher we sign can duplicate Fried’s post season numbers. That someone will pay millions for Fried to be a 5th starter in the playoffs will be fun to watch.
Posted on 11/28/24 at 2:57 pm to Broski
I disagree. I view signing Scherzer as an alternative to bringing Morton back for a similar cost. He was effective if 2023, but injured most of last season. When he did pitch he still looked to have it. Obviously he’s not the guy he was 6-8 years ago.
The difference, IMO, between Scherzer and Morton is that he can still bring it enough to be a postseason starter. I think he’d come cheaper, and is a more solid bet, than Buehler.
Fwiw, I think your comments about being a name guy would be more appropriate if i mentioned Verlander here.
The difference, IMO, between Scherzer and Morton is that he can still bring it enough to be a postseason starter. I think he’d come cheaper, and is a more solid bet, than Buehler.
Fwiw, I think your comments about being a name guy would be more appropriate if i mentioned Verlander here.
Posted on 11/28/24 at 6:13 pm to Stastny
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Same could’ve been said about Sale
Sale was younger and coming off of a good pitching season (when he was healthy).
Scherzer is 40 and hasn't had a good season in 2 straight years (even when he was healthy).
It's not the same thing at all and you making that comparison is nasty work.
Even so, we got lucky with Sale pitching a full season. We can't bank on that happening for other pitchers just because it happened once. Since the success/luck of 2021, AA's dumpster diving moves have been horrid.
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Posted on 11/28/24 at 6:14 pm to lsusa
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He was effective if 2023
Max Scherzer was not effective in 2023.
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The difference, IMO, between Scherzer and Morton is that he can still bring it enough to be a postseason starter. I think he’d come cheaper, and is a more solid bet, than Buehler.
Where are you getting this "Scherzer can still bring it as a postseason starter" narrative? He has shown that he can't anymore.
Posted on 11/28/24 at 6:27 pm to Broski
You think Sale pitched a full season? Come on man. He was in street clothes to end the season in the games that mattered. That’s the difference between us. You see Sale as a CY Young winner and I see Sale as a guy who wasn’t even a factor.
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