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re: The ATL Thread - 6/14 - Win Another Series Thread
Posted on 6/14/26 at 2:41 pm to td01241
Posted on 6/14/26 at 2:41 pm to td01241
quote:
Striders wasn’t a bad move. Injuries to starting pitchers happen.
Disagree. The injuries were super predictable with his history and velocity.
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Riley was looking like the best 3B in baseball when he got the contract
Disagree again. He had insanely hot stretches, but also went through borderline unplayable stretches. You have to give time to see which version sticks.
This post was edited on 6/14/26 at 2:42 pm
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Posted on 6/14/26 at 2:41 pm to Broski
A strawman is an argument that one fabricates that didn’t happen
Ozzie’s contract is real.
Ozzie’s contract is real.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 2:43 pm to td01241
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A strawman is an argument that one fabricates that didn’t happen
Ozzie’s contract is real.
But what I'm talking about had nothing to do with Ozzie's contract.
You bringing that up to counter what I'm saying is the very definition of a strawman
Posted on 6/14/26 at 2:46 pm to Broski
You’re complaining about buying out arb years
Bringing up an example where that worked out insanely well for us isn’t a strawman. A strawman is a logical fallacy.
It’s perfectly coherent to say actually it doesn’t always fail. However, the Braves were the team that really pioneered it and likely I think he got a bit ahead of himself for some of the guys in the crop post Ozzie and Acuna. Harris is still a good example of it working but he also was signed insanely fast.
Hopefully he has learned from this lesson it can end up being a mixed bag and takes a longer runway to players like Drake and Schwelly or Hurston if we keep him.
Bringing up an example where that worked out insanely well for us isn’t a strawman. A strawman is a logical fallacy.
It’s perfectly coherent to say actually it doesn’t always fail. However, the Braves were the team that really pioneered it and likely I think he got a bit ahead of himself for some of the guys in the crop post Ozzie and Acuna. Harris is still a good example of it working but he also was signed insanely fast.
Hopefully he has learned from this lesson it can end up being a mixed bag and takes a longer runway to players like Drake and Schwelly or Hurston if we keep him.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 2:47 pm to Broski
I’m just glad the Braves don’t have Juan Soto at $765 mil over 15 years.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 2:47 pm to Broski
Back to today's game what are the chances of an Atlanta 5 run inning in the 7,8 or 9?
Posted on 6/14/26 at 2:49 pm to LSUJockStrap
Would’ve been alot better if Rowdy’s line drive didn’t find a glove.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 2:49 pm to td01241
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It’s perfectly coherent to say actually it doesn’t always fail.
But I never said that
C'mon dude
Posted on 6/14/26 at 2:51 pm to 257WBY
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I’m just glad the Braves don’t have Juan Soto at $765 mil over 15 years.
Me too, his player profile was never who you give that type of contract to.
The Mets went for solely the name.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 2:53 pm to td01241
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You’re complaining about the follow btw
Dominic Smith- 1 year split contract of 1.25 million
Jorge Mateo- 1 year 1 million
Dubon- gotten in a trade for nick allen with the astros eating half his salary this year of 6.1 million
Those guys are not what everyone is complaining about. What everyone is complaining about is this:
Riley- $22M
Strider- $20M
Kim- $20M
Murphy- $15M
Lopez- $14M
Bummer- $9.5M
Jimenez- $9M
That's almost $110M in dead weight.
Also, AA's plan for the rotation was seemingly "hope a bunch of guys with long injury histories are magically healthy."
Posted on 6/14/26 at 3:03 pm to VADawg
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Murphy- $15M
This still triggers me to no end.
Gave up a better catcher who was pre-arb for an older guy and then extended him before his plane even landed in Atlanta.
Langeliers and Contreras combined this year are making what Murphy is making.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 3:03 pm to VADawg
Yeah those are bad. Riley could end up turning it around at some point but you’re right that’s a lot of dead weight.
Every team in the league that spends in the level range we do carries dead weight contracts there isn’t a single one I couldn’t go find examples of in the top 12 payrolls.
You either operate that way because not everything is always going to go perfectly so you spend and try your best or your operate like the brewers and the rays which to their credit have been incredibly successful.
The thing is those contracts aren’t as big of a deal as some in here are making it out to be because the following players are making
Elder 810k
Drake 800k
Fuentes 790k
Holmes 700k
Ritchie 710k
Lee 2.2 million
Eli white 800k
Jimenez and Kim are off the books after this year, and if we don’t trade Lopez which I think we will he is the year after.
Meanwhile if all goes well guys like
Scwelly and AJSS will be playing at high levels making 800k each
We only have 153 million in gaurenteed AAV for next season, which will be a bit higher because that is assuming options not being picked up and guessing at arbitration figures but still we are at 254 million right now.
We have some bad contracts but our financial situation is not the catastrophe some here make it out to be
Every team in the league that spends in the level range we do carries dead weight contracts there isn’t a single one I couldn’t go find examples of in the top 12 payrolls.
You either operate that way because not everything is always going to go perfectly so you spend and try your best or your operate like the brewers and the rays which to their credit have been incredibly successful.
The thing is those contracts aren’t as big of a deal as some in here are making it out to be because the following players are making
Elder 810k
Drake 800k
Fuentes 790k
Holmes 700k
Ritchie 710k
Lee 2.2 million
Eli white 800k
Jimenez and Kim are off the books after this year, and if we don’t trade Lopez which I think we will he is the year after.
Meanwhile if all goes well guys like
Scwelly and AJSS will be playing at high levels making 800k each
We only have 153 million in gaurenteed AAV for next season, which will be a bit higher because that is assuming options not being picked up and guessing at arbitration figures but still we are at 254 million right now.
We have some bad contracts but our financial situation is not the catastrophe some here make it out to be
Posted on 6/14/26 at 3:03 pm to Broski
We are fried if we dont get Skubal
Posted on 6/14/26 at 3:06 pm to crimsoncoded94
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We are fried if we dont get Skubal
We're not going to get Skubal, it would fly in the face of everything that AA is about.
And that's ok.
We have to improve the rotation though and he needs to figure out a way to do that.
ETA: I swear to god if we get past the deadline without a move and then AA comes up to the TV booth and parrots the retread line of "Well we're about to get Schwelly and Waldrep back so that's like a trade", I'll give up on the season.
This post was edited on 6/14/26 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 6/14/26 at 3:06 pm to crimsoncoded94
What do we have to give up for Skubal?
Posted on 6/14/26 at 3:06 pm to crimsoncoded94
Anyone who thinks we are getting skubal is huffing copium at levels never before seen
We would have to send them Drake Hurston and international pool money at minimum and that’s just to get a seat at the table
We would have to send them Drake Hurston and international pool money at minimum and that’s just to get a seat at the table
Posted on 6/14/26 at 3:08 pm to td01241
Logan Webb seems like a reasonable possibility.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 3:09 pm to td01241
I am mostly joking, but the starting rotation is a joke.
Best case we get Schwelly and Smith Shawver back, and Waldrep and JR pitch their minds out.
Best case we get Schwelly and Smith Shawver back, and Waldrep and JR pitch their minds out.
Posted on 6/14/26 at 3:09 pm to 257WBY
Logan Webb or Joe Ryan are going to be the ceiling of who we look to acquire
I am highly doubtful they will trade for anyone without control beyond this season, and they have both but Ryan not having been a free agent yet will cost more to get
I am highly doubtful they will trade for anyone without control beyond this season, and they have both but Ryan not having been a free agent yet will cost more to get
Posted on 6/14/26 at 3:10 pm to crimsoncoded94
AJ needs to get on the flight back to ATL
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