re: [The Athletic] What An Expanded Playoff May Look Like

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I honestly don’t know how anyone alive at the time could have this take. People cared tremendously about those games.

And if the argument is all that matters is the championship, then it’s not like a 4-5 matchup between Texas A&M and Notre Dame would matter in a large playoff because both those teams get run by Alabama in a semifinal.

If the take is all that matters is a championship, then games not involving Alabama, Ohio State, etc. are pointless regardless of the playoff size.

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Again...for the millionth time, these players don't care if the "people" care about Bowl Games or not anymore. People have and will continue to care less and less if more and more players opt-out because of such a small playoff format. Expand it to 16 teams and watch how many more players magically play in those playoff games. I simply dont understand whats so hard to understand about this? Opt-out culture WAS going to happen with the CFP or not. People are just blaming the CFP because its too easy. Players were going to opt-out of bowl games regardless. Expanding the playoffs minimizes this to an extent.

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THIS is a completely different argument.

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I’m arguing based on reality. You’re arguing based on what you want to see not what might happen. If you reduce the season and bowl games, teams are going to lose money.

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I would say half of the SEC, B1G, B12 and ACC could think they can get inside the top 16

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So why would the other half agree to losing money? Why would the rest of the FBS agree to it? To losing 2 whole games of revenue.

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You are now making this about money vs putting a better playoff product on the field. Which is more important to you? To me, its a better post season CFP.

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Because that’s once again the reality. I don’t see the point of arguing something that has little chance of happening. It doesn’t matter what’s more important to you because the reality is the vast majority of teams won’t make the playoffs and lose a lot of money by your reduced game proposals.

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’m arguing based on reality. You’re arguing based on what you want to see not what might happen. If you reduce the season and bowl games, teams are going to lose money.

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Well the OP was "What An Expanded Playoff May Look Like". The word "may" leaves room for interpretation. Only time will tell...right?

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You must have missed the part where the 1st round games were home site games? Round of 8 is 2nd round games. Final 4 is 3rd round.

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That’s still an extra neutral site game.

I have no interest in flying my family all over the country in the month of December to go to a bunch of sterile-arse, neutral site blowouts.

Anything prior to the championship should be on campus. Certainly nothing prior to the semifinals should be off campus.

Honestly, do you go to any of the games? Games on campus are a million times better. In addition, the neutral site games cost college towns millions of dollars in lost revenue.

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The proposals listed in the OP were made by fans. That’s who the poll and scenarios laid out were coming from. It wasn’t coming from the CFB higer ups. Yes they are considering expanding the playoffs. But your response regarding reducing games and the other guy’s G5 auto bids aren’t based on anything. Rather on what you want to see happening.

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Jesus, do i have to tell you gain for the 3rd time that i am completely aware that a 10 game schedule prob wouldnt work? I would like to see that, but i know it isnt going to happen. My goodness...go back and read my original post and the last line.

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Jesus, do i have to tell you gain for the 3rd time that i am completely aware that a 10 game schedule prob wouldnt work? I would like to see that, but i know it isnt going to happen. My goodness...

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Yeah you told me that then went and said this

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Make the playoff and you dont have to worry about that revenue being lost right? Again, that puts MORE pressure on teams to win...which is GOOD for college football.

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If you believe it’s not going to happen then what you said above is complete nonsense and pointless.

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If you believe it’s not going to happen then what you said above is complete nonsense and pointless.

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I thought you were referring to losing money because of doing away with the bowl system all together. That's what i was saying. I know they will NEVER give up the 12 game format.

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f the Round of 8 is played at neutral sites, that’s an extra neutral site game. 3 rounds at neutral sites is greater than 2. Unless you’re advocating for removing conference title games.

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Oh you meant from the current system...yes, BUT its also an additional home game for the other 8 schools.

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It should be:

16) campus
8) campus
4) campus (this one neutral also at worst)
2) neutral

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I could get on board with this 100%

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I thought you were referring to losing money because of doing away with the bowl system all together. That's what i was saying.

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I don’t see them doing away that either. There’s a reason we have more bowl games now compared to a few decades ago. The playoffs will only consistently make money for a handful of teams. The other teams (like 90% of FBS) are going to want that bowl bid possibility because that’s not going to be them.