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re: The 76ers have officially put Ben Simmons on the trade block
Posted on 7/13/21 at 10:53 am to teke184
Posted on 7/13/21 at 10:53 am to teke184
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You can put Simmons out there next to Steph and Klay to hide his offensive liabilities but that is a lot of money to pay for a defense only player.
If he can body up and play more in the lane and off the ball his offense might be more valuable. Right now as a PG he just can't score enough. But I agree with you.
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Posted on 7/13/21 at 10:54 am to teke184
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That is an $8m / season difference in Simmons being more expensive and Dray, while good, hasn’t lived up to his current contract.
Given their age and skill sets, that’s easily worth the extra 8 mil.
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You can put Simmons out there next to Steph and Klay to hide his offensive liabilities but that is a lot of money to pay for a defense only player.
Golden state is currently paying Andrew Wiggins max type money to be a sometimes offensive type player and a never defense player, you can live with more faults in a player when they are lined up to Steph and klay and in that system
This is proven by their success with Draymond, which hasn’t hit above 30 percent behind the arc in 3 years
This post was edited on 7/13/21 at 10:56 am
Posted on 7/13/21 at 10:54 am to teke184
Didn't want to start a separate thread and since Sexton has been mentioned:
Twitter
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Per Shams the New York Knicks are the “most aggressive” Collin Sexton suitor.
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A package that would include Obi Toppin, Kevin Knox, and one of New York’s 2021 first rounders appears to be an option for Collin Sexton after reaching out to a source.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 10:59 am to wildtigercat93
Wiggins is there because they knew they were going to suck due to all the injuries and wanted to accumulate assets.
Taking on Wiggins was part of that cost and he helped get them to a top 4 pick IIRC.
Taking on Wiggins was part of that cost and he helped get them to a top 4 pick IIRC.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 11:01 am to dukke v
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He is NOT an elite defender
From the lowest NBA iq poster
Posted on 7/13/21 at 11:02 am to teke184
I’m just saying, I’ll take a player with 1 elite skill over a player with 1 good skill regardless of offensive vs defensive
I don’t see how you could argue Simmons wouldn’t fit great in GS, when we’ve literally seen them do the exact thing with a less talented player with similar disadvantages (and worst ones tbh)
ETA went back and maybe I misunderstood your point being more about financials. But Golden state doesn’t have too many options out there for available Vets that would raise their ceiling, Simmons is the best option out there
I don’t see how you could argue Simmons wouldn’t fit great in GS, when we’ve literally seen them do the exact thing with a less talented player with similar disadvantages (and worst ones tbh)
ETA went back and maybe I misunderstood your point being more about financials. But Golden state doesn’t have too many options out there for available Vets that would raise their ceiling, Simmons is the best option out there
This post was edited on 7/13/21 at 11:05 am
Posted on 7/13/21 at 11:04 am to SDVTiger
he probably has seen less than 10 games Simmons played in the nba.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 11:04 am to dukke v
You need to sit this one out.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 11:05 am to wildtigercat93
The problem isn’t play as much as salary cap.
Steph, Klay, and Simmons would take up so much cap space that they would be in the tax for years and scrounging for help due to a lack of assets. And this wouldn’t be the Warriors of a few years ago who were deep in the tax but world beaters.
Steph, Klay, and Simmons would take up so much cap space that they would be in the tax for years and scrounging for help due to a lack of assets. And this wouldn’t be the Warriors of a few years ago who were deep in the tax but world beaters.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 11:06 am to dukke v
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In a league that doesn’t play much defense at all…. Ok…. Are you saying he is better than Pippen????
No one knows how to make up an argument out of thin air quite like you PEEJ.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 11:10 am to teke184
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Steph, Klay, and Simmons would take up so much cap space that they would be in the tax for years and scrounging for help due to a lack of assets. And this wouldn’t be the Warriors of a few years ago who were deep in the tax but world beaters.
They would flip dray and Wiggins in this scenario which clears up 50 mil in salary. Simmons is around 30, you add in Dray and use the extra room to get some more depth pieces and you’re good to go.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 11:15 am to wildtigercat93
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They would flip dray and Wiggins in this scenario which clears up 50 mil in salary. Simmons is around 30, you add in Dray and use the extra room to get some more depth pieces and you’re good to go.
Of course now you have to wonder why the 76ers would take that trade
Posted on 7/13/21 at 11:22 am to Fun Bunch
Ben needs to go somewhere with a really good coach who can get him in line.
Perhaps Sproelstra in Miami could speak some sense into him. Although i think Jimmy Buckets still hates Ben from his Philly stint.
Steve Kerr could do wonders for Ben's career imo. A core of Stephz Klay, and Ben would be pretty dangerous.
Maybe the Clippers as well. Ty Lue has a way of getting his players to play hard for him. Not to mention being next to Kawhi and PG is a whole lot of length to try and score against.
Any other good fits.
Perhaps Sproelstra in Miami could speak some sense into him. Although i think Jimmy Buckets still hates Ben from his Philly stint.
Steve Kerr could do wonders for Ben's career imo. A core of Stephz Klay, and Ben would be pretty dangerous.
Maybe the Clippers as well. Ty Lue has a way of getting his players to play hard for him. Not to mention being next to Kawhi and PG is a whole lot of length to try and score against.
Any other good fits.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 11:25 am to Fun Bunch
“Sophomore of the Year” should be traded to his native Australia. Team USA would benefit by knocking the Aussies down a bit. Eh, mate?
Posted on 7/13/21 at 11:30 am to SammyTiger
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Of course now you have to wonder why the 76ers would take that trade
I’m not saying they would trade those two players for Simmons btw and I noted earlier it’s a lot easier said than done so I’m not trying to airchair GM too hard, just laying out the path
They have the assets that could entice Philly (draft picks, possibly wisemen) or could atleast be leveraged in a 3 team trade to make it work.
Wiggins they would likely have to attach future picks to send him to another team in a separate transaction to clear space
Draymond could probably fetch you a positive asset since he’s on an expiring deal.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 11:32 am to Fun Bunch
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The 76ers have officially put Ben Simmons on the trade block
Would it be that hard for him to lock himself inside a gym for a few days and figure out how to shoot a basketball?
Posted on 7/13/21 at 11:39 am to LSUGrad9295
He'd probably be better off with a sports psychologist than locked in a gym.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 11:41 am to Fun Bunch
Orlando will get him for the 8th pick and some change I bet.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 11:43 am to DiamondDog
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Orlando will get him for the 8th pick and some change I bet.
He’s got more value than that.
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