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re: Terry Rozier is being investigated for gambling

Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by JamalMurry27
Tennessee Titans
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:28 pm to
While this is obviously illegal it still irks me a little when a sportsbook loses and starts investigating fishy wagers. But if you broke the law you broke the law
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
37969 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:28 pm to
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Naaah. The geniuses here on TD have convinced me that sports is in no way rigged.


Individual players rigging prop bets is different than a conspiracy of the league itself to rig games

Does it really matter who's doing the rigging? Individuals rig for gamblers; the league rigs to maximize profit.

Bottom line: It's rigged.
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 1:51 pm to


Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14607 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:06 pm to
a lot more of this going on


Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53774 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:13 pm to
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You have to wonder if the player prop bets are eventually going to be banned


At least ban the unders… it’s insane that you can bet on a player NOT performing

I don’t see any issues with overs
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
101232 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:16 pm to
About 60% of my NBA fandom died when my team rebranded from Hornets to Pelicans.

Its not even the name, it's everything else. The colours, the logos, the uniforms. Went from an iconic top 5 concept in all of sports to a complete poverty look that is bottom 5.
This post was edited on 1/30/25 at 7:17 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84543 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:21 pm to
Greg Ehrenberg, here is your grand jury subpoena
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
29176 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:39 pm to
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Its not even the name, it's everything else. The colours, the logos, the uniforms. Went from an iconic top 5 concept in all of sports to a complete poverty look that is bottom 5.


You think the New Orleans Hornets had a top 5 identity concept?
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53774 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 7:54 pm to
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Its not even the name, it's everything else. The colours, the logos, the uniforms. Went from an iconic top 5 concept in all of sports to a complete poverty look that is bottom 5.


I would have thought it’s because when they have had the #1 pick they’ve wasted two generational talents now
This post was edited on 1/30/25 at 7:54 pm
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
86565 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:02 pm to
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You have to wonder if the player prop bets are eventually going to be banned.
but these things have EXTREMELY low limits, low enough that it wouldn't make sense for someone earning the kind of money they do to even entertain this kind of stuff.
While that was obviously not the case here I took it still largely holds true. True enough to keep it legal and deal with the one offs.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66540 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:13 am to
The league knows about it though. They see these giant betting spikes for random games and they let it go. Why do you think that is?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466331 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:23 am to
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The league knows about it though. They see these giant betting spikes for random games and they let it go. Why do you think that is?


Explain to me what the NBA gains in this hypothetical conspiracy to let Terry Rozier play less than his line was set for, in a meaningless Pelicans-Hornets regular season game.

Articulate the whole plan, strategy, goals, etc.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66540 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:42 am to
Don’t deflect SFP, on ESPN this morning they had a guy from draft kings explaining these huge spikes in bets for Rozier’s games and that it was obvious and known by Vegas and the NBA that something was going on. My question was why did the NBA ignore it. I didn’t make any allegation.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466331 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:52 am to
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on ESPN this morning they had a guy from draft kings explaining these huge spikes in bets for Rozier’s games and that it was obvious and known by Vegas and the NBA that something was going on


Yeah that was literally already established in the article in OP

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In March 2023, the NBA was alerted to unusual betting activity related to Terry Rozier's performance in a game between Charlotte and New Orleans


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A series of strange bets were placed on various outcomes related to Rozier for the Hornets matchup with the New Orleans Pelicans that night. Those wagers raised the suspicions U.S. Integrity, which works with various sports and gambling interests to protect against illegal activity.


You didn't answer my question.

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My question was why did the NBA ignore it.

They didn't. There is only so much they can do. Now the feds? They have a lot more power to investigate this, and if the NBA was complicit, there will be arrests and prosecutions of NBA execs. However, instead, the NBA is cooperating fully with the feds. That is LITERALLY the opposite of "ignoring" it.

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I didn’t make any allegation.

Your pivot is noted.

Now, can you avoid deflecting and respond to my actual post. I'll re-post it for you:

quote:

Explain to me what the NBA gains in this hypothetical conspiracy to let Terry Rozier play less than his line was set for, in a meaningless Pelicans-Hornets regular season game.

Articulate the whole plan, strategy, goals, etc.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66540 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:59 am to
lol your question was about something I didn’t do, they obviously didn’t do anything about it originally and there was no pivot so you can stop lying, your simp status is secure.
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 8:00 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66540 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:02 am to
If it’s been so widely known and acknowledged for 2 years why haven’t you or anyone else discussed this, why wasn’t it reported? You're a clown
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 8:03 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466331 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:11 am to
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they obviously didn’t do anything about it originally

Verifiably false.

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and there was no pivot

You rescinding your "just asking questions" attempt is noted.

Now, can you avoid deflecting and respond to my actual post. I'll re-post it for you:

quote:

Explain to me what the NBA gains in this hypothetical conspiracy to let Terry Rozier play less than his line was set for, in a meaningless Pelicans-Hornets regular season game.

Articulate the whole plan, strategy, goals, etc.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466331 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:12 am to
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If it’s been so widely known and acknowledged for 2 years why haven’t you or anyone else discussed this,


quote:

My question was why did the NBA ignore it.


Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
54059 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:16 am to
Probably mad when Celtics sent him to hornets
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66540 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:22 am to
Learn how to comprehend English then get back to me so I don’t have to educate you as if you’re a child
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