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Ted Williams from 1941 to 1947

Posted on 11/19/22 at 9:07 am
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 11/19/22 at 9:07 am
Saw this on Twitter

Posted by 4x4tiger
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 11/19/22 at 9:12 am to
A truly Great American
Posted by Bottom9
Arsenal Til I Die
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Posted on 11/19/22 at 9:20 am to
Excited to see him come back from the ice one day and ask him if he remembers being frozen for so long.
Posted by YNWA
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 11/19/22 at 9:21 am to
He had a good head on his shoulders...
Posted by AbramsTankBrigades
Madison
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Posted on 11/19/22 at 9:22 am to
Stout won't like this

One of the GOAT Americans, a true patriot

Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 11/19/22 at 9:27 am to
What a 7-year stretch
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/19/22 at 9:31 am to
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Great American



Like Sean Hannity
Posted by AutoYes_Clown
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2012
5176 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 9:34 am to
Now do his legacy during Korean War era.

I dont know the full details but I dont think he saw combat till Korea. He retrained to fly jets, served in Korea with John Glenn, was nearly shot down. He came back from Korea and won multple batting titles and elected as all-star several years.

Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/19/22 at 9:40 am to
Williams won the MVP in '49
Posted by Cliff Booth
Member since Feb 2021
2542 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 9:45 am to
I think he’s the goat. His numbers would have been staggering with almost 5 full seasons more. 3 of which were in his absolute prime, and even after Korea he won multiple batting titles so honestly it was 5 years of prime.

All time leader in OBP and even with all that missed time he still hit over 500 homers with a near 3/1 BB/SO ratio. Doesn’t even make sense.
Posted by TDFreak
Dodge Charger Aficionado
Member since Dec 2009
7370 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 9:47 am to
I’m sketchy on the details, but as a pilot, wasn’t he able to see the enemy planes before his co pilots? Same perfect eyesight that helped him in the batters box worked in the skies.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41195 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 10:02 am to
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Now do his legacy during Korean War era.


'52 & '53 his batting average was .400+ both years, but he only play in 40 or so games
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34673 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 10:04 am to
20/15 vision helps a lot, both at bat and in the air
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 11/19/22 at 10:26 am to
What's a guy gotta do? He should have been MVP in '41.
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
83374 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 10:36 am to
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His numbers would have been staggering with almost 5 full seasons more. 3 of which were in his absolute prime


This is from an article in 2018 celebrating what would have been his 100th birthday:

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Using Williams' averages from his 17 non-military seasons, we can estimate his final career numbers had he not missed any time while in the service during World War II and the Korean War. The figures in parentheses indicate where they'd rank on the all-time list.

2,332 RBIs (1st)
2,588 walks (1st)
6,020 times on base (1st)
6,202 total bases (2nd)
1,418 extra-base hits (3rd)
656 home runs (6th)
3,381 hits (9th)




Other stats from the article:

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Williams owns the record for career on-base percentage at .482. No active player has posted an OBP that high in any season. Joey Votto, the active leader in OBP (.428), could reach base successfully in each of his next 650 plate appearances and still not reach Williams' mark.


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Joe DiMaggio batted .408 during his 56-game hitting streak in 1941. Williams batted .406 that season (in 143 games). It remains the most recent season in which a player hit .400.


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The Triple Crown in batting has been achieved six times in the past 80 years. Four of those six seasons resulted in that player winning MVP (Miguel Cabrera in 2012, Carl Yastrzemski in 1967, Frank Robinson in 1966, Mickey Mantle in 1956). Williams did not win MVP in either of his Triple Crown seasons (1942, 1947) and is the only player in AL history to do it more than once. He finished one hit shy of winning the Triple Crown for a third time in 1949 (percentage points behind George Kell for the batting title).


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Williams finished in the top 10 of MVP voting 12 times, most of any player in American League history. Williams won the award twice (1946, 1949), the first of which came in his first season back after missing three years due to his military service. He is one of three players, along with Stan Musial and Willie Mays, to win MVP honors the year after returning from the service -- but he's the only one to do so after missing at least two full seasons.


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Williams recorded five seasons with 100 more walks than strikeouts; all other players in the live ball era (since 1920) have combined for four such seasons. For his career, he walked 1,308 more times than he struck out, the largest gap of its kind.


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Williams drove in 145 runs as a 20-year-old in 1939, a rookie record that stands to this day. He was eight years younger than the average big leaguer that season. In 1957, he batted .388 as a 38-year-old (which remains a record for a player that age or older), finishing five hits shy of .400. He was nine years older than the average big leaguer that season.


Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34673 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 10:38 am to
DiMaggio hit in 56 straight and the Yanks won the pennant
This post was edited on 11/19/22 at 11:22 am
Posted by Nerd
Member since Dec 2019
876 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 11:22 am to
He was robbed of at least 3 MVPs as well.
Posted by Indiangensing
Member since Nov 2017
1514 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 11:23 am to
I have heard this as well... dude was an ace in the sky. Maybe our country needs to go back to having heroes like this instead of the lebrons of the world.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
22011 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 11:25 am to
how much has pitching evolved in the last 70 years? how fast did pitchers throw back then? how much movement did pitches have back then? just genuinely curious
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36115 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 11:34 am to
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how much has pitching evolved in the last 70 years? how fast did pitchers throw back then?


There have been physicists who tackled this question. Based on calculations of home run distances the pitchers were throwing fastballs in the 90s unless you believe players like Babe Ruth had superhuman bat velocity.
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