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re: Switch LBJ with Jordan and vice versa - Hypothetical

Posted on 4/18/18 at 10:50 am to
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 10:50 am to
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I think LeBron would have one less than Jordan did with the Bulls and Jordan may have one more than LeBron had in his career with Cavs and Heat.
I think Lebron wouldn’t have as many as MJ, and MJ would have either the same or 1 more than Lebron. I think MJ would have beaten the Mavs, which would give him one more, but 2016 championship would not be a given how good the Warriors were and how close it was (the block) from being a Warriors victory anyways.
Posted by longhorn22
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 10:50 am to
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Different eras

LeBron is a freak in year 15 of his career against better players

He would have been almost invincible if he played in the 80s and 90s


this....also the shite MJ did off the court wouldn't fly in today's world with social media etc. He would be done


Lebron got roasted and toasted for making a "decision"....just imagine TMZ stories of MJ gambling the night away and frickin around with hookers etc in Atlantic City
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 10:55 am to
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Lebron teams in Miami were much more talented than Jordan’s. Barely squeezed 2 rings out of that
They were not much more talented than the Bulls, if at all, but I think MJ would have won 3 with the Heat with an additional championship over the Mavs. He wouldn’t have beaten that Spurs team.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 10:56 am to
Anyone who runs this hypothetical without bias realizes that LBJ comes up roses far more readily than MJ.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:00 am to
I don't deal in hypotheticals only facts and the fact is only one of the 2 lead one of the greatest comebacks in the history of basketball. And that would be Michael Jordan over the monstars. #neverforget
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 11:15 am
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:03 am to
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And that would be Michael Jordan over the MONSTARS. #neverforget
Get it right, Wayne Knight.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 11:04 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:03 am to
Posted by SeeeeK
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:06 am to
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Lebron got roasted and toasted for making a "decision"


no, he got roasted for being a dickjaw
. No one would of given half a frick if he just signed with Miami.

He decided to be an attention whore, and he took a ton of shite.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:07 am to
Roids Lebron doing much better than the roids in Jordans time.

Posted by ZeekFreak
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:08 am to
disagreed, game was insanely more physical and it was accepted during Jordan's era. I agree talent wasn't as tough but the style was WAY tougher and LBJ hates contact. They would have gotten in his head nonstop
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:12 am to
It's pretty much a no-brainer for me.

LeBron- Six titles
Jordan- Four titles (Three that LeBron won plus 2011)
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:15 am to
Sorry phone autocorrected
Posted by TheLastTallyGator
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:04 pm to
Lebron would have zero, and Jordan would have zero, purely based on position, and attitude. Lebron would have been matching up with some of the best defenders that have ever played the game, and Jordan would have been a 6'6 shooting guard, almost every team in the league has one of those now, where as in the 90s he was lengthy for his position and had high release point. Lebrons game would have gone a different direction due to the times pushing him to be more of a post player and not the first option all the time and he would have bounced around the league because when he doesn't win he isn't loyal. and 90s ball players were loyal.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:05 pm to
Lebron would have 6, MJ would have 4 (Mavs)
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
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Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:19 pm to
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Switch LBJ with Jordan and vice versa - Hypothetical
How many championships would each have if they just switched careers?


LeBron probably wins more, you give LeBron Pippen, Horace Grant, Cartwright, Rodman and wing players like Kerr, Paxson, Kukoc, and Hodges in conjunction with Phil Jackson and Tex Winter as coach you likely have a dynasty for 6+ years.

You put Michael in LeBron's situation, you likely won't be able to have D-Wade and Kyrie on the team because they both share the same offensive approach to the game and therefore likely create a conflict that could hinder team progress. Because Mike's such a driven and ambitious player, he probably elevates the teams he's on to 4 titles but probably not more if he's playing Pop and the Warriors, those are all-time great TEAMS not collections of talent, one great player rarely defeats a great team often so I believe this would apply logically to Jordan here.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:20 pm to
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PTExperience is coming with his essay


Preciate the recognition
Posted by sgallo3
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:25 pm to
Lebron would dominate with the rules Jordan got to play with, who the frick is gonna stop him 1v1 with those defense rules



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This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 12:29 pm
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:28 pm to
Jordan would have less titles than LeBron has gotten.

LBJ would have less titles than MJ got.

This is a silly hypothetical for multiple reasons including:

1) Different Eras
2) Different officiating
3) Super teams were more normal back then (see Celtics/Lakers of the 80's and 90's early).

Most of all, both play different positions and roles on their teams. LeBron mitigates the value of Pippen on those Bulls teams since they become redundant, and have no legitimate start shooting guard.

Jordan on any of LeBron's teams loses what he brings to the table and becomes redundant with Wade and Irving.

These types of switches only work when looking at players with similar styles.

Now, a flip of Kobe with MJ, and that's more interesting. Lakers win more titles while Bulls win less. Kobe is a great player, but not near the defender or ball handler Jordan was, but both would compliment their respective new teams in that scenario.
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:30 pm to
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He was on a good team sure but the Bulls didn’t have lunch and decide to all take shorter contracts to allow them to come together. As soon as Melo took a max deal and Bosh/Wade/Safety Pin took 3 years everyone knew what was coming.


They won 55 games without him. The bulls were a 3rd seed without jordon
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:31 pm to
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He was on a good team sure but the Bulls didn’t have lunch and decide to all take shorter contracts to allow them to come together. As soon as Melo took a max deal and Bosh/Wade/Safety Pin took 3 years everyone knew what was coming.


You realize there were less teams in the NBA when Jordan's era went through, high school players were just starting to be allowed into the NBA again, and the physicality of the game changed. Furthermore, free agency rules changed at that point as did many salary cap rules.

You can't compare those eras. Also, MJ had a HOF coach during his run. LeBron's best coach to date has been Spoelstra.
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