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re: STL Cardinals Haters...Why do you hate the Cardinals?

Posted on 10/2/14 at 12:59 pm to
Posted by vanburenboy
New York
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 12:59 pm to
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Does this include ESPN?


Yes and every damn girl I see when I travel for work with a pink Red Sox hat on.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 12:59 pm to
I swear I read that in a magazine a few years back, the same year Silver Dollar City was the #1 amusement park.
This post was edited on 10/2/14 at 1:01 pm
Posted by LSUBoo
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 1:01 pm to
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I swear I read that in a magazine a few years back, teh same year Silver Dollar City was the #1 amusement park.


Maybe in Missouri. Although I think it would still be behind the Arch.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 1:02 pm to
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Maybe in Missouri. Although I think it would still be behind the Arch.



I doubt that, SDC is too large country wide.
Posted by bbap
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 1:02 pm to
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I said they win with more class than Cardinals; not that they win with any appreciable amount of class.



its still hilarious you think that. you clearly have never been to new york.
Posted by BoardReader
Arkansas
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 1:06 pm to
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its still hilarious you think that. you clearly have never been to new york.



I've been to St. Louis, NY (both in good and bad Yankees seasons), and Boston.

I'd take the game-day crowd in St. Louis over Boston, in terms of being less crappy, but with NY both crowds were sort of washes with St. Louis. Maybe it was a product of being day games.

Fanbase wise, though? I'd have to hold my nose and choose Yankee fans. At least they might have a little happiness about being successful after a relatively brief drought. Its still like a forced choice between eating a dog turd, a stale doughnut, and gum off the bottom of a shoe, though. The stale doughnut wins each time.

Posted by LoveThatMoney
Who knows where?
Member since Jan 2008
12268 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 1:10 pm to
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Maybe you don't remember 2011

You mean when they won the pennant?

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2008, 2007


You mean the year after they won the World Series and the year after that? Yeah, no one was acting butt hurt about not making the playoffs those years. We were still high off our team's World Series win.


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but non-Cardinals fans do.


This tells me all I need to know. The hallmark of a great franchise is being hated so badly by other teams' fans that when your franchise fails to succeed at the highest level, your own fans forget about it but the fans of the other teams revel in it.

You have said absolutely nothing in this thread that hasn't been said by the rest of the Cardinals haters on this board in the past, and those haters have clearly never actually experienced a one on one interaction with a Cardinals fan or been to a Cardinals game.

And that's fine. I get it. There are plenty of people who feel the way you feel about the Cardinals. I will give you shite for it, but it's all in fun. Your hatred of the Cardinals, while rooted in nothing concrete, is understandable, if only because they are a popular team to hate. And people love a good bandwagon, even if that bandwagon is one berating another team instead of cheering it on.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 1:11 pm to
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Branson #3 in Top 50 Group Tour Destinations for 2012


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Branson, population 6,050, is located in southwest Missouri, 35 miles south of Springfield. It is ranked 16th among all overnight vacation sites in the United States.


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Posted by The Sad Banana
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 1:11 pm to
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Cardinals Haters...Why do you hate the Cardinals?
Because frick the Cardinals.





But I do like the city of St. Louis.
Posted by BoardReader
Arkansas
Member since Dec 2007
6939 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 1:17 pm to
Should have been 2010. Typo on my part.


Your next, though, illustrates the exact problem. Two years of less than optimal success, and the only thing that can be harped upon is the prior World Series. It is about as illustrative as anything is, of the mindset non-Cardinals fans loathe.

My hatred of the Cardinals has absolutely no bearing on their success, nor is it shaped by their success. In fact, the greatest shaper is how Cardinals fans react when *they* fail. Really, they have next to no effect on my team, so I have every reason to not care at all, as much as any baseball fan can not care about another franchise-- it'd be like a Cardinal fan with a super strong opinion about the merits of the Seattle Mariners.

You write off as 'Haters gonna hate', because you can't process that there are genuine sources of dislike, whether you feel they are justified or not.

This isn't unlike how Cowboys fans relate to other fan bases. Envy is not the determining factor of why people dislike you. They dislike you, for you.





Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
66040 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 1:19 pm to
We have big dicks and like to swing them, better hope the Doyers do work.
Posted by lsusportsman2
Member since Oct 2007
27232 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 1:24 pm to
I'm an Astros fan. They were huge rivals of ours for years and years. Just never really liked them, but I do respect them though.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
Who knows where?
Member since Jan 2008
12268 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 1:29 pm to
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Two years of less than optimal success, and the only thing that can be harped upon is the prior World Series. It is about as illustrative as anything is, of the mindset non-Cardinals fans loathe.


This makes no fricking sense. On one hand, you're saying Cardinals fan act all upset when they don't make the playoffs because they feel entitled to it, on the other, you're saying they don't mind not making the playoffs because they just say, "yeah, well we won the whole damn thing 2 years ago, so whatever, we'll be alright," and that this is somehow indicative of how terrible a fan base they are.

Which is it?

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In fact, the greatest shaper is how Cardinals fans react when *they* fail. 


As you just admitted, the reaction is pretty muted because they just revert back to the fact that they won it all very recently and not making the playoffs once or twice is no big deal. So would you rather they rant and rave and tear their hair? Would that make you hate them less?

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Really, they have next to no effect on my team, so I have every reason to not care at all, as much as any baseball fan can not care about another franchise-- it'd be like a Cardinal fan with a super strong opinion about the merits of the Seattle Mariners. 


You clearly do care. Hate, like love, is born out of passion for something. You hate the Cardinals and their fans. So you obviously care for some reason. I, on the other hand, have no issues whatsoever with the Mariners. In fact, given their recent history, I wish them nothing but future success.

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This isn't unlike how Cowboys fans relate to other fan bases. Envy is not the determining factor of why people dislike you. They dislike you, for you.


Lol. K.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 1:31 pm to
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I'm an Astros fan. They were huge rivals of ours for years and years. Just never really liked them, but I do respect them though.


Totally get this. I'm not a huge fan of the Stros because of their history with the Cardinals, but now that I live in Houston and the Stros are in the AL, I'm warming up to them.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 1:33 pm to
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Creepy Yakov Smirnov loving motherfrickers.






Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77649 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 1:36 pm to
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Cardinals Haters...Why do you hate the Cardinals?


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mizzoukills


Crap.

Going to be impossible for us level-headed cards fans to post in any game threads now.
Posted by BoardReader
Arkansas
Member since Dec 2007
6939 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 1:39 pm to
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This makes no fricking sense. On one hand, you're saying Cardinals fan act all upset when they don't make the playoffs because they feel entitled to it, on the other, you're saying they don't mind not making the playoffs because they just say, "yeah, well we won the whole damn thing 2 years ago, so whatever, we'll be alright," and that this is somehow indicative of how terrible a fan base they are.

Which is it?




I'll slow this down for you, since you cant grasp it.
Cardinals fans always mind. In fact, they can't wait to tell you how much they mind; they can't accept that there are bad years, even for good teams in front of well-run franchises. Everything, always, relates back to the Cardinals. It doesn't even need to be baseball. There is a Bob Gibson story about his non-huge season that *perfectly* relates to the Cardinals fan's cousin getting a flat tire.



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As you just admitted, the reaction is pretty muted because they just revert back to the fact that they won it all very recently and not making the playoffs once or twice is no big deal. So would you rather they rant and rave and tear their hair? Would that make you hate them less?




Still not getting it, I see. The reaction isn't muted, it is wrist-slitting level sorrow and entitlement type crying, relating back to their prior success as the source of the proper working order of the world.




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You clearly do care. Hate, like love, is born out of passion for something. You hate the Cardinals and their fans. So you obviously care for some reason. I, on the other hand, have no issues whatsoever with the Mariners. In fact, given their recent history, I wish them nothing but future success.




You are right, I do care-- because Cardinal fans are inescapable, raging douchebags that are a blight on any attempt to discuss anything in sports. I'd love to be able to talk about golf, without the Cardinals being interjected. If Cardinals fans would exercise even the slightest modicum of STFU about the Cardinals when we're not talking about baseball, the world's impression of them would be much better.

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Lol. K.



Yep. That's a Cardinals fan.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77649 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 1:41 pm to
Your rustled generalizations are a good read.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33713 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 1:47 pm to
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And do you think fans of other NCAA baseball teams get tired of hearing that about LSU?


Oh yes I totally believe this. As an ardent LSU fan myself, I get tired of hearing about "those knowledgable LSU fans...they cheer good plays by the opponent, blah blah blah."
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33713 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 1:49 pm to
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I remember Jose Cruz calling them the Doyers or at least that's what it sounded like.



I loved that guy.
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