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Steve Kerr: The Case for the 20-Year-Old Age Limit in the NBA

Posted on 5/8/12 at 9:44 am
Posted by Truculent Typist
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Posted on 5/8/12 at 9:44 am
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I know there is gonna be some push-back on this but I wonder what % of this board/the general sports public would be in favor of it.
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Posted by HT713
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/8/12 at 9:46 am to
Here's a crazy idea: If a player is physically ready to play in the NBA, then let him play. Stop w/ the age restriction bullshite... if there's a 17 y/o HS'er who can fill a roster spot, let him go like they do in international soccer.


Am I the only one who thinks that the NBA telling an 18 y/o who can hoop that he has to wait a year is downright unamerican?
Posted by lsu6294
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/8/12 at 9:49 am to
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Am I the only one who thinks that the NBA telling an 18 y/o who can hoop that he has to wait a year is downright unamerican?



All of the pro leagues are pretty unamerican when you think about the drafts.
Posted by Slickback
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 5/8/12 at 9:53 am to
I like how they have it in baseball. You can declare out of high school, forgoing your college eligibility, but if you go go to college you have to stay 3 years or until your 21.

I think it would be beneficial to college basketball and the NBA.
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 5/8/12 at 9:55 am to
quote:

I like how they have it in baseball. You can declare out of high school, forgoing your college eligibility, but if you go go to college you have to stay 3 years or until your 21.

I think it would be beneficial to college basketball and the NBA.


I agree with this 100%.
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 5/8/12 at 9:55 am to
Here's another idea:

Build a better developmental league(s) and have the NBA use those as farm teams. Some could be directly affiliated with specific NBA teams, while others could be independent. Allow kids to be drafted after leaving high school, but if they choose college, they have to stay in school for a minimum of 3 years or until they turn 21, similar to baseball.

Another, more radical idea, is for each team to fund an academy, located in their region. These would be places where kids can concentrate on basketball more than they do in high school, while still receiving regular class room work from tutors and other instructors. The teams play an abbreviated schedule against other academies, AAU squads, semi pro teams, and the aforementioned developmental squads, and players who are with the NBA squad who have NOT finished their education can still utilize it as a resource. Included in the education should be life skills, etc.

Honestly, I would LOVE to see American professional sports evolve towards the academy model.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 5/8/12 at 9:55 am to
Let me sum up the article:

I, Steve Kerr, really enjoyed college 30 years ago. Since I needed it to advance my career and I enjoy reliving those days, all college basketball players must have my exact experience.

Somewhere, Jim Nantz is shedding a tear at this essay.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18981 posts
Posted on 5/8/12 at 9:56 am to
quote:

Here's a crazy idea: If a player is physically ready to play in the NBA, then let him play. Stop w/ the age restriction bullshite... if there's a 17 y/o HS'er who can fill a roster spot, let him go like they do in international soccer.


Exactly
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44346 posts
Posted on 5/8/12 at 9:58 am to
I might be the only one, but I think the 1 and done rule is going to eventually kill college basketball. Making kids stay for 2 years would just hasten the process.
This post was edited on 5/8/12 at 9:59 am
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73142 posts
Posted on 5/8/12 at 9:58 am to
if you're going to use that argument, you're going to have to argue at abolishing league drafts, unions, etc since all of those things are anti capitalism too
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/8/12 at 9:59 am to
I like the academy model too. Very strange concept of student/athlete needs to go away for athletes with pro potential. For those people, they need job training, not chemistry class.
Posted by HT713
Galations 4:16
Member since Jan 2011
10028 posts
Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:00 am to
meh, I guess. at least
quote:

league drafts, unions,
have a point (fairness, employment standards, respectively). Making a dude who's ready now pretend to be a college student for a year is pretty pointless, IMHO. What is the justification for it?
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18981 posts
Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:01 am to
quote:

if you're going to use that argument, you're going to have to argue at abolishing league drafts, unions, etc since all of those things are anti capitalism too


Its not about capitalism its about logic, arbitrary age restrictions are illogical.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73142 posts
Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:02 am to
quote:

Its not about capitalism its about logic, arbitrary age restrictions are illogical.
well they aren't arbitrary really.

I'd rather see the baseball rule implemented myself
Posted by SM6
Georgia
Member since Jul 2008
8790 posts
Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:05 am to
quote:

I like the academy model too. Very strange concept of student/athlete needs to go away for athletes with pro potential. For those people, they need job training, not chemistry class.


Agreed, but the problem is that college athletics are tax exempt, pro team academies are not.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:06 am to
quote:

Agreed, but the problem is that college athletics are tax exempt, pro team academies are not.


That's not really a problem.

The problem is that colleges and many other people make a shite ton of money off of college sports...
Posted by wegotdatwood
Member since Aug 2009
17094 posts
Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:07 am to
Then you'll see crazy parents holding their kid back in school "so they can leave early."
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70095 posts
Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:07 am to
Why are so many people in thread focusing on when a player is physically ready for the NBA when the article in the OP specifically talks about making kids mentally and emotionally ready for the NBA?
Posted by GeauxAggie972
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Member since Aug 2009
29428 posts
Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:07 am to
quote:

I like how they have it in baseball. You can declare out of high school, forgoing your college eligibility, but if you go go to college you have to stay 3 years or until your 21.

I think it would be beneficial to college basketball and the NBA.


How would that be beneficial to college basketball? There would be more kids out of high school going pro than there was before they put the age limit in. Why go to college three years when you can play in the NBA and get paid?

I know the sports are different due to the physicality, but how do you think football players feel? These kids don't even have a choice, they HAVE to go to college for three years or be out of a normal high school for three.

That option for baseball works because they have about 50 rounds and have a well-developed minor league system. Even now though, they are trying to get more kids to go to college with the draft slotting and not allowing teams to largely overpay for high schoolers they take in the later rounds (like 4th rounders getting 1st-2nd round money)

NBA High School Draftees

Outside of a select few(James and Howard), almost all of those from about 1999 on down would have benefited from at least a year in college. That list also doesn't include the high schoolers that went pro and weren't drafted, thus screwing up their future. You try telling these 17-18 year old kids in high school that are averaging 30 PPG, 10+ RPG, etc. that they aren't good enough to compete in the NBA
This post was edited on 5/8/12 at 10:09 am
Posted by BIGDAB
Go for the Jugular
Member since Jun 2011
7468 posts
Posted on 5/8/12 at 10:07 am to
quote:

Here's a crazy idea: If a player is physically ready to play in the NBA, then let him play. Stop w/ the age restriction bullshite... if there's a 17 y/o HS'er who can fill a roster spot, let him go like they do in international soccer.


It's not the physical aspect of the game that causes problems for these teenagers, it's the mental aspect. In order for the NBA to protect is product they would be wise to place an age restriction on players they allow in the league.
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