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re: Sterling Punishment: Lifetime Ban, 2.5M Fine, Urging Owners 2 Force Sale of team

Posted on 4/29/14 at 2:08 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 2:08 pm to
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nobody on tv is talking about the legal shitstorm brewing. are we overrating this or are they just gonna avoid it until it happens?

they are avoiding it. ESPN's legal team made brief comments and it's done
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16036 posts
Posted on 4/29/14 at 2:08 pm to
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I agree it's a business decision based on both liability and loss of sales.


That's exactly what it is, which doesnt make it right or legal.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 2:09 pm to
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, Sterling won't win a lawsuit if it's he decides to take this to court. T

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The language, SI.com is told, only covers very limited circumstances and these circumstances concern team finances -- namely, when an owner can't pay his bills.


Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
20551 posts
Posted on 4/29/14 at 2:09 pm to
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Is it just me or would the smarter play by Silver to suspend Sterling indefinitely pending an investigation. Seems like he's making this harder on himself and the league.



I'd say he surveyed the interest of the other owners and when he felt he had the backing of them along with the media and fans and coaches and players, he figured why not send a knockout shot across the mouth.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
44890 posts
Posted on 4/29/14 at 2:09 pm to
Makes it perfectly right and completely legal depending on the terms of his franchise agreement.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86099 posts
Posted on 4/29/14 at 2:09 pm to
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They do once they become public. Same thing would happen to your boss if he made such comments at home and the recordings were played for the entire office. You can't make the employees unhear it. Another reason FB bites ppl in the mass all the time.



Legally, no. Now practically, you'd get fired or demoted, but the substance of a hostile work environment claim still isn't there.

I just don't like the idea of conflating moral and business premises in this case. It's a peculiar situation, but I wish there was more meat here to hang the punishment on.
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13533 posts
Posted on 4/29/14 at 2:09 pm to
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who cares? it's a private league, they can do whatever the want.

why do people care what private leagues/companies do?


Yep
Posted by Lee Chatelain
Official TD Sauces Club Member
Member since Oct 2008
12252 posts
Posted on 4/29/14 at 2:09 pm to
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What's the general consensus in here about the penalties?


He should sue the NBA.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16036 posts
Posted on 4/29/14 at 2:09 pm to
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nobody on tv is talking about the legal shitstorm brewing. are we overrating this or are they just gonna avoid it until it happens?



they are avoiding it. ESPN's legal team made brief comments and it's done


ESPN is avoiding it because they obviously know the facts dont fit their agenda.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
155565 posts
Posted on 4/29/14 at 2:10 pm to
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the ensuing shite storm and the legality of what the nba is trying to do

Exactly.

And I'm glad to hear it. I have no idea when it became borderline illegal to simply be an idiot or an a-hole. And I sure as frick don't like big organizations (like the NBA) trying to dole out punishments like these to someone who has personal beliefs.

Also, for clarification...what all is on the tapes? I know he was telling his super young girlfriend not to bring black people to the games and delete them off of her social media. Is that it? Sure, he comes off as prejudiced (not racist unless he hates all black people because they are black - which is key), but there's no reason he should be banned from the NBA for life. And this whole "making him sell" bullshite is..well, just that.

I haven't heard/read all of the tapes, but did he even say the N word? (And no, that isn't a prerequisite for racism, but I find it funny that most of the shite I've heard on the news and ESPN is him telling her to diassociate with "black people." Seems like a true racist would use different terms.)
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466946 posts
Posted on 4/29/14 at 2:10 pm to
that and if they blow their load now, they won't be able to sensationalize the lawsuits (if they occur)
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13533 posts
Posted on 4/29/14 at 2:10 pm to
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He's also been awarded numerous times by the NAACP, (that part is all of a sudden forgotten)


Yea, for giving them money

He's also been involved in other racist based lawsuits...
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103155 posts
Posted on 4/29/14 at 2:10 pm to
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If what is bolded is stated in the NBA's constitution, Sterling won't win a lawsuit if it's he decides to take this to court. That statement is cut and dry to me and has been bargained and the courts will rule that way.


I don't think you're fully reading that paragraph.

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The NBA's constitution, which is confidential, reportedly contains language permitting owners to authorize the league to sell a team without an owner's consent. The language, SI.com is told, only covers very limited circumstances and these circumstances concern team finances -- namely, when an owner can't pay his bills.


Without the circumstances regarding that language being spelled out, I don't see how Sterling loses.

It sounds like the circumstances outside of financial difficulty are so limited that it would be extremely hard to invoke them.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133562 posts
Posted on 4/29/14 at 2:11 pm to
I wonder how much faux outrage would come from private conversations of other owners, higher up.


This is a witch hunt and a precedent for thought police.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 2:11 pm to
Racism: Beginning of time, B.C. - April 29, 2014

Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
44890 posts
Posted on 4/29/14 at 2:11 pm to
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Legally, no. Now practically, you'd get fired or demoted, but the substance of a hostile work environment claim still isn't there.


I'm sorry, but yes. Combined with his past history, it is the perfect argument for a hostile work environment. I've worked cases with much less that have moved forward.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16036 posts
Posted on 4/29/14 at 2:11 pm to
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Makes it perfectly right and completely legal depending on the terms of his franchise agreement.


You mean the agreement that gives the other owners a right to vote him out if 75% agree, BECAUSE OF FINANCIAL REASONS?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466946 posts
Posted on 4/29/14 at 2:11 pm to
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I know he was telling his super young girlfriend not to bring black people to the games and delete them off of her social media. Is that it? Sure, he comes off as prejudiced (not racist unless he hates all black people because they are black - which is key),

for the record. he told her she could frick them, just not post pictures on social media or go to his games

Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36721 posts
Posted on 4/29/14 at 2:11 pm to
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ESPN is avoiding it because they obviously know the facts dont fit their agenda

well they would look like total shite if they brought a lawyer on right now that talked about the legal circumstances. so i get why they avoid it. i just figured somebody would have mentioned it.
Posted by Vegas Eddie
The Quad
Member since Dec 2013
6052 posts
Posted on 4/29/14 at 2:11 pm to
I know I’m outraged……can’t wait for the next media created scandal to be upset about
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