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re: Start your team: AD or Lillard
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:40 pm to Boomshockalocka
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:40 pm to Boomshockalocka
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I’ll still go w Damian for leadership reasons. Four game don’t change that
So you’d take less offense. Less rebounding. Less defense. Less versatility. FOR muh leadership. I thought you were a talent evaluation type of guy?
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Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:43 pm to Boomshockalocka
Sorry boom, but for us experts this is a "what have you done for me lately" league
Can't have a superstar who disappears on his team in the playoffs, etc
Can't have a superstar who disappears on his team in the playoffs, etc
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:46 pm to Boomshockalocka
I love Dame, I think he is a great player and a great leader. Without making a list I would say he's without a doubt top 20 and possibly top 15 in the NBA right now.
The difference is AD has the potential to end up as top 20 of all time.
The difference is AD has the potential to end up as top 20 of all time.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:46 pm to Boomshockalocka
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still go w Damian for leadership reasons. Four game don’t change that.
He folded when he wasn’t hitting. He pouted & showed no emotion
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:47 pm to Boomshockalocka
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I’ll still go w Damian for leadership reasons. Four game don’t change that.
Dame's a DAWG you can really go both ways and make strong arguments but I'd prefer the versatile, prodigious big man with exceptional shooting range AD's a legend of the game, there's a reason he has all the accolades he has dating back to high school and he's led the poorly run Pelicans to 2 WEST playoff appearances as its centerpiece you can't deny he translates to wins and team success
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:50 pm to redfishfan
Davis is more talented player for player. But a guy like Dame will elevate his teammates to a level they would not reach playing alongside a guy like Davis.
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“People are trying to figure out how we’ve done it,” Olshey says. “A lot of it is the team bonding and jelling. But it really has been Dame knowing what we need out of each guy and getting into their psyche and empowering them to be a little bette
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“At some point the gravitas that he has, the leadership ability, he’s going to be able to add more in the locker room and the organization so that we’re going to be able to accelerate this rebuild,” Olshey says. “Not because of who he can attract to the market, but how he can elevate the guys around him.
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“People are trying to figure out how we’ve done it,” Olshey says. “A lot of it is the team bonding and jelling. But it really has been Dame knowing what we need out of each guy and getting into their psyche and empowering them to be a little bette
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“At some point the gravitas that he has, the leadership ability, he’s going to be able to add more in the locker room and the organization so that we’re going to be able to accelerate this rebuild,” Olshey says. “Not because of who he can attract to the market, but how he can elevate the guys around him.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:51 pm to Lester Earl
I can’t comment on that I wasn’t able to watch the last couple games.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:52 pm to CorporateTiger
He can't score 10 points in a playoff game
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:57 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Davis is more talented player for player. But a guy like Dame will elevate his teammates to a level they would not reach playing alongside a guy like Davis.
So you’re willing to take a worse player based on a metric that really can’t be measured bc none of us are in their locker rooms to know.
This post was edited on 4/23/18 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 4/23/18 at 12:59 pm to redfishfan
Leadership shows up in the win column. Davis lack of leadership has been apparent in the Pels record the last few years. Lillards too. When his team was in rebuild mode and he still lead them to playoffs.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 1:05 pm to Boomshockalocka
Give it up 
Posted on 4/23/18 at 1:05 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Leadership shows up in the win column. Davis lack of leadership has been apparent in the Pels record the last few years. Lillards too. When his team was in rebuild mode and he still lead them to playoffs.
AD's injuries and lack of help has accounted for the lack of wins. You see the level Jrue has been playing at lately. That dude has been injured and dealing with family issues the last three seasons. AD is better than Lillard. Every NBA GM is taking AD over Dame. Dame is great player but I can name 5 or 6 PG's I'd take over Dame. I can't name 5 PF/C I'd take over AD.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 1:06 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Leadership shows up in the win column
H2H this year:
AD - 6
Lillard - 2
Posted on 4/23/18 at 1:06 pm to redfishfan
I thought you weren’t a Pels fan why are you using excuses that only Pels fans makes?
Posted on 4/23/18 at 1:07 pm to Boomshockalocka
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I thought you weren’t a Pels fan why are you using excuses that only Pels fans makes?
Not a Pels fan AT ALL. Never rooted for them in a single game ever. I'm just objective to know AD is on another level than Dame. Your Pels hate won't let you see it though.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 1:08 pm to Cap Crunch
In the first post we said we don’t look at a miniscule sample size. I am big picture.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 1:08 pm to redfishfan
I don’t hate Pels at all
Posted on 4/23/18 at 1:10 pm to Boomshockalocka
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I don’t hate Pels at all
You sure act like it. Hell I've only been to 3 Pels game since they started the franchise up in NOLA.
1. To see MJ that final Wiz season.
2. Random Rockets game.
3. Spurs a few years ago.... Courtside
Posted on 4/23/18 at 1:11 pm to Boomshockalocka
Boom. Your trolling would be much better if you were occasionally self aware of consistent.
You said AD needed to "win a playoff game" in order to be "a leader". Well he not only won a playoff game he swept a series, dominated the entire series being elite at both ends of the floor.
Damian Lillard, in the same series, was awful. Couldn't figure out defense, pouted, couldn't adjust, and basically just gave up. Not what leaders do.
AND, just the other day, you said you had moved AD into your top 5 players in the NBA.
So just give it up. Take your L here. I'm trying to help you with your troll game.
You said AD needed to "win a playoff game" in order to be "a leader". Well he not only won a playoff game he swept a series, dominated the entire series being elite at both ends of the floor.
Damian Lillard, in the same series, was awful. Couldn't figure out defense, pouted, couldn't adjust, and basically just gave up. Not what leaders do.
AND, just the other day, you said you had moved AD into your top 5 players in the NBA.
So just give it up. Take your L here. I'm trying to help you with your troll game.
Posted on 4/23/18 at 1:16 pm to Fun Bunch
I did make him top 5. That is a well deserved honor. And we said not even winning a playoff game was bare minimum to be a top 5 player. I think we can all agree that fair. If you haven’t won a mere playoff game where over half the league makes the playoffs, hard to say you are a top 5 player. That standard applies to all players. Consistently. Not just your Davis.
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