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re: Sounds like Brooks Koepka is joining LIV

Posted on 6/21/22 at 5:53 pm to
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 6/21/22 at 5:53 pm to
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you gave players their media rights, would it not greatly diminish the value of the contracts in the medias eyes,


NFTs are a new phenomenon. I doubt the value of the NFTs were even considered.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
18683 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 5:54 pm to
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LIV is the future

Making more money is what anyone would want.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59466 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 5:55 pm to
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From what I gather the stars would be better off owning their own media rights, but 90% of tour players would come out with less if the rights were owned Individually


This is interesting to me. What do you base this upon? I only ask because I am very good friends with a player that is consistently between 100-200 on tour. Always fighting for his card.
This post was edited on 6/21/22 at 6:05 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111459 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 5:56 pm to
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This whole ordeal has been about the stars the whole time
Not for some supporters of LIV who want to act like this is about helping the poor lower level players grinding to pay hotel bills…. That has been their lying crutch similar to the morality crotch of the PGA media
This post was edited on 6/21/22 at 5:58 pm
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36763 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 2:01 pm to
You didn't answer my question. Are pious Rory, JT and Rahm going to turn down the extra money that they are going to make from other stars leaving for LIV, both in better average finishes and in the prize money increases?

If they do, then you can stand on your crutch that the tour can't let them come back because others were loyal.

It is really frickin wierd that you care about this this much
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111459 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 2:06 pm to
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You didn't answer my question. Are pious Rory, JT and Rahm going to turn down the extra money that they are going to make from other stars leaving for LIV, both in better average finishes and in the prize money increases? If they do, then you can stand on your crutch that the tour can't let them come back because others were loyal. It is really frickin wierd that you care about this this much
I honestly don’t have a clue what you are trying to say
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36763 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 2:17 pm to
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I honestly don’t have a clue what you are trying to say



Having read this thread, that's not surprising

You are saying the tour can't let the LIV golfers back because it would be a slap in the face to the guys that stayed.

Now follow this, those guys that stay get to avoid all of the "blood money" comments while simultaneously getting a raise. If they are that loyal to the tour, why does the tour all of the sudden have up to 3x more money to give them? They can thank the guys who left
Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
5965 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 2:21 pm to
I honestly am not surprised you can't comprehend.

It's pretty obvious what he is saying. After Scheffler wins $30M+ on the PGA Tour next yr, then he will openly welcome back former LIV players back to the PGA & say "thank you" for forcing the PGA to change and adding 8 $25M purse tournaments.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111459 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 2:24 pm to
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Now follow this, those guys that stay get to avoid all of the "blood money" comments while simultaneously getting a raise. If they are that loyal to the tour, why does the tour all of the sudden have up to 3x more money to give them? They can thank the guys who left
I thought that’s what you were saying, but tried to give you the benefit of the doubt….

If I stayed loyal to my entity, while turning down 100 million plus in guranteed money, I would be livid if the guys that left and took the money were allowed back recourse free

To try and deny that is silly, but not surprised some on here will try

Y’all pretending like the tour guys would look at the LIV players as some honorable martyrs is classic
This post was edited on 6/22/22 at 2:26 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111459 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 2:25 pm to
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It's pretty obvious what he is saying. After Scheffler wins $30M+ on the PGA Tour next yr, then he will openly welcome back former LIV players back to the PGA & say "thank you" for forcing the PGA to change and adding 8 $25M purse tournaments.


Y’all can’t be this frickng dumb
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36763 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 2:28 pm to
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I thought that’s what you were saying, but tried to give you the benefit of the doubt…



You didn't think that's what I was saying at all, which is why you didn't address it the first time I asked, because there is no logical defense to it.

Who said they were martyrs? I said they were going to make more money because of LIV. Is that not correct?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 2:29 pm to
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If I stayed loyal to my entity, while turning down 100 million plus in guranteed money, I would be livid if the guys that left and took the money were allowed back recourse free


Not everyone is a whiny little bitch like you though
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111459 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 2:32 pm to
Oh that would make the players a whiny bitch? So I assume you think the LIV players and everyone complaining about the PGA whiny bitches then……
This post was edited on 6/22/22 at 2:33 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 2:33 pm to
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Oh that would make the players a whiny bitch?


No, it makes you a whiny little bitch

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So I assume you think the LIV players and everyone complaining about the PGA whiny taxes then……


I know you are typing furiously in your melt, but try English next time
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111459 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 2:35 pm to
You can’t claim to be neutral at all if you can’t have the intellectual honesty to admit players who stick with the Tour would have every right to both expect recourse for players who left , and be angry if they were allowed back penalty free

Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
5965 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 2:36 pm to
It's all hypothetical bc I don't think any of the former PGA/current LIV golfers will ever need to return to the PGA Tour & compete for earnings.

You can't be that fricking dumb to think the PGA would have made that move & increased winnings for the top 50 PGA Tour players IF 10-12 of their top players didn't already leave for LIV.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 2:38 pm to
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You can’t claim to be neutral at all if you can’t have the intellectual honesty to admit players who stick with the Tour would have every right to both expect recourse for players who left , and be angry if they were allowed back penalty free



They've had to deal with the shite storm of the nerd media and they'll have to sit out for a year either way if they resigned.

That's what the money was for. I can't be mad if I turned down the money, it was there for my taking, and because those guys left, the guys that stayed are making more.

Again, not everybody is a cry baby like a teeny bopper like you. It's just business Playa
Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
5965 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 2:38 pm to
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the intellectual honesty to admit players who stick with the Tour
Do you have the intellectual honesty to admit they should thank the players who left for their eight no-cut, $25M purse tournaments?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 2:38 pm to
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You can't be that fricking dumb to think the PGA would have made that move & increased winnings for the top 50 PGA Tour players IF 10-12 of their top players didn't already leave for LIV.


He is absolutely that dumb and has proven it time and time again
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111459 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 2:39 pm to
Yeh playa, and the business end is you left for LIV so tough luck when you want to come back

You and everyone else biased for LIV in here only want to see that pendulum swing one way
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